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I am hopeful that the club director change will allow better relationships with other clubs.   There is no reason why K2 and Alliance don't host each other at some point.  Not sure if that was a director issue, but I have heard that it was.    Also, we are such short drives from Kiva, Mava, A5, Circle City etc. We could really pull some great teams that guarantee tope level competition.

 

Seems like Alliance had a solid showing at Orlando.  16's had a great run. 15's finished about where they were expected (15th I think).  One of the younger teams also really did well.  Maybe 12's?  Overall I feel like it was a good club season for alliance considering the there was a coach that left and the director change.   One of things they HAVE to improve though is recruiting assistance/coordinator and their technology.   There just isn't enough communication around that area. 

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It is surprisingly difficult to compare how Alliance and TPV did at AAU. Turns out there is not a single AAU age / division combination in which both clubs entered teams. So maybe the best way to compare them is to look at how they did against the targets they assigned themselves. The clubs are their own best judges in terms of their teams' competitiveness.

Alliance, as I understand it, does not make any decisions in terms of where to enter its teams. Mizuno teams always play Open, Molten always play the next level down (Premiere, at AAU), and 3rd level teams play Club. Alliance does not enter teams in the lowest divisions (Aspire and Classic, respectively).

The Sports Performance model means you enter teams in divisions where you expect them to win. For this reason, even the Mother Ship in Chicago does not enter younger teams in Open divisions, theory being the training model takes a few years to make the kids competitive.

So long story short: Alliance entered teams in top divisions, TPV did not, and (though there were exceptions, as Clifford points out above), it was mostly a rough tournament for both clubs: less than half of Alliance (6 of 14) and TPV (8 of 18) finished in the top half of their divisions.

Of those that did, there were some pretty good results:

  • TPV placed 9th and 25th out of 75 in 13 Club, and 33rd out of 125 in 13 Classic
  • TPV 18's finished 13th of 74 in 18 Club
  • Alliance 15's and 16's (as mentioned above) had very good results
  • Alliance 18's teams also finished strong (10th of 20 in Open and 13th of 37 in Premiere)

What stands out the most is Alliance weakness in the 13's and 14's, and strength in the 15's and 16's. 9th out of 59 in 16 Open is really, really good for that Alliance 16's teams, placing them ahead of some outstanding teams. The exact opposite is true for TPV, with great results younger, and next to nothing in the middle age groups. If I were TPV, I would be trying hard to poach some kids off those 15's and 16's teams, so keep the illusion of competitiveness alive while those 13's evolve. I would have liked to have seen how those TPV 13's did against better competition, but back to the SPRI model: we'll have to wait a year or 2 to find out. There is certainly open-level potential there.

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at this point you cannot compare the 2 clubs.  Alliance is and should be much better.  The question will be in 3-4 years.   I can't imagine any of the key players from the 15 or 16 teams leaving,   If the 15's had one more good offensive player they would be really, really good. 

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Alliance is still stronger then TPV in the younger ages.  I would put the Alliance 12's up against any TPV 13 team and half of the TPV 14's and the Alliance 12's would win.  The Alliance 14's would handily beat any TPV 14 team.  People tend to forget that the best age for TPV (13) is the same group that was easily the weakest age group for Alliance a couple years ago.  As some of those parents found out this year, it wasn't Alliance, i was their daughters skill level.

 

TPV will not get a quality Alliance player that is 14-18 to switch clubs.  Those are prime recruiting ages and with TPV playing club and skipping national tournaments, the exposure is not there.

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A quick check of Alliance's facebook page seems to confirm that she's coaching the 17-1's team at Alliance this year. So far no updates on Club West's website or socials about it. We'll see I guess. 

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Things seem still in doubt as to where Alliance will practice next year.  I've everything from high schools to The Fieldhouse to Thompson Station.  Does anyone know?

There have been a lot of new players showing up for the TPV Sunday skills.  There could be a major change in the travel scene next season.   

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I haven't heard anything about locations, but I would assume there will be a announcement fairly soon.  There is no doubt that it's going to be everywhere however.  There is no way they will have a central location for all teams.   Thompson Station will be brutal for many players.  Hendersonville, Wilson County, North Nashville especially.  

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Don’t believe everything you hear out there. The “Fieldhouse” name is following TPV over to what was formerly A Game. TPV now has zero connection with the building space they were previously leasing. 

Alliance will end up at the former “Fieldhouse” and will continue under the one roof, not multiple buildings as stated above.

Alliance has already named their coaching staff for all the age groups. Has TPV? As it is every year, a few kids will move back and forth but don’t underestimate the number of kids that want to return to Alliance. 

Just an observation but I believe Alliance will still hold an edge in the top talent staying with the proven coaching. 

We will just have to wait and see how it all plays out after high school season.

 

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While looking around online for news I found this which I would venture to guess is the new A-Game's rename soon. It looks like TYS-Fieldhouse.  http://tys-fieldhouse.com/

Is there enough room for all the teams at the formerly known as Franklin Fieldhouse building?

It also looks like Alliance South Satellite is breaking away to start their own club. Not sure if there will be an Alliance South or what it will look like going forward. https://www.m1vbc.com/

I think curiosity about TPV is high though. I've heard they will host more this year and travel less back and forth to Gatlinburg. I've also heard Alliance will host less local. Watching kids who play for either club all show growth as a player so for volleyball in general it's good to have more kids improving. I don't know if these teams will ever play or if they'll stay in their own spheres like last year. 

Lastly, I think the lack of communication certainly has parents frustrated. Also I hate to say it but the 1's teams are likely mostly content, but seeing the 2's and 3's realize it's hard to move up will likely drive a few over to other clubs to see if the grass is greener. It seems to be just the way it is.

 

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