Knoxville Catholic @ McCallie

[IrishBBall]

Not sure how Ensworth fits into the D2AAA mix but Catholic really shot themselves in the foot by fumbling both KOs and punts not to mention a personal foul during a timeout that gave Ensworth a first down instead of punting. Excited to see this matchup.

[IrishBBall]

On 9/9/2019 at 9:06 PM, gcapride said:

The Dad  has had several embarrassing moments, in the stands, on the sidelines and now at the locker room with the HC. What a joke. 

Six years worth, unfortunately.

[Booger]

4 hours ago, IrishBBall said:

Not sure how Ensworth fits into the D2AAA mix but Catholic really shot themselves in the foot by fumbling both KOs and punts not to mention a personal foul during a timeout that gave Ensworth a first down instead of punting. Excited to see this matchup.

they really dont...their D2-AA playin up a class...along with BA.....thank goodness

Booger just sayin 

[TinPigskin]

On 9/9/2019 at 9:06 PM, BigTime1950 said:

Catholic getting ready to go 0-2 vs big time private football teams. Looks like some bad blood brewing between coach/parents. But hey maybe they were talking about the Vols? What ever. Some things never change. McCallie is big time. Catholic better start recruiting for next year. Dll is best division in the state. 6A public not even close.

That's a stretch to say that.  Whitehaven, Oakland and Maryville could compete with or beat any team in DII most years

Edited September 15, 2019 by TinPigskin

[rebelwoman87]

On 9/9/2019 at 11:54 PM, WillieTheWildcats said:

The current Mays brother is not like his brother or Dad ( so I have been told). 

 

Your information is correct. 

[rebelwoman87]

On 9/9/2019 at 11:54 PM, WillieTheWildcats said:

I have never seen or heard of him being anything but a good coach.

Willie you have to be joking...

[Booger]

On 9/9/2019 at 9:06 PM, BigTime1950 said:

Catholic getting ready to go 0-2 vs big time private football teams. Looks like some bad blood brewing between coach/parents. But hey maybe they were talking about the Vols? What ever. Some things never change. McCallie is big time. Catholic better start recruiting for next year. Dll is best division in the state. 6A public not even close.

 

On 9/10/2019 at 7:57 PM, BigTime1950 said:

Yes Maryville and and Alcoa beat most of the public teams that they play. They both have done that for years. That's why the both combine for the most state championships ever in the history of the state playoff system. I don't know what else to say but they don't play any DII teams.

not so sure ole bigtime ant a whole lot bias and a little off his mark with mark with this DII & 6A thing.....and if McCallie is so big time...how come they ant been able to get thru the Nashville or memphis schools to contend for a championship since 2006 ...and only one TN championship trophy in it case

.....Booger will agree the Tornadoes r big time  in chattanooga.....but history shows outside Chattanooga area not so much......so Booger thinkin that whole 6A school powerhouses thing not even bein close......might b much......Booger gotta an ex webb fan buddy from Knoxville thinks same thing bout Baylor....

.....but tru they r both big time in Chattanooga...with only one holding the Chattanooga Big Time belt

Booger just sayin 

[BigTime1950]

7 hours ago, TinPigskin said:

That's a stretch to say that.  Whitehaven, Oakland and Maryville could compete with or beat any team in DII most years

Could but they never will. Only in the IFL. Other than Whitehaven, and some other public schools in Memphis/Nashville have actually played and DIiAAA teams on a consistent basis in the last 10/15 years? And if they did what are the results. PC/Hillsboro have played some DIIAAA teams in recent years. PC beat MBA this year. But who in 6A consistently plays vs DIIAAA and wins.

[TinPigskin]

1 hour ago, BigTime1950 said:

Could but they never will. Only in the IFL. Other than Whitehaven, and some other public schools in Memphis/Nashville have actually played and DIiAAA teams on a consistent basis in the last 10/15 years? And if they did what are the results. PC/Hillsboro have played some DIIAAA teams in recent years. PC beat MBA this year. But who in 6A consistently plays vs DIIAAA and wins.

The really good public teams can for sure compete with DII.  To say otherwise is asinine.

6A Science Hill from East TN lost to Brentwood Academy 45-42 in 2014.  That same year, Maryville beat Science Hill 45-0.

6A Blackman beat McCallie in 2015

At the time 2A Alcoa beat McCallie in 2005

6A Oakland beat Baylor in 2014

6A Whitehaven lost to Brentwood Academy 17-14 this year

3A Pearl Cohn beat MBA this year

6A Independence beat MBA in 2009

4A Melrose beat Christian Brothers in 2006 and 2007

6A White Station beat Christian Brothers this year

6A Ravenwood beat Father Ryan last year

And there have also been numerous close losses for public schools to privates

I knew some of these, and some of these I figured out in about 10 minutes of research.  I'm sure there are other examples.  Just because everyone doesn't play everybody else every year, doesn't mean that they can't compete.  Ask Brentwood Academy fans or players if they think Whitehaven can compete with DII.  I think we both know the answer to that.  And Oakland or Maryville will win 6A this year, not Whitehaven, so I'd say Maryville or Oakland could compete with BA or other DII teams as well

[BigTime1950]

10 hours ago, TinPigskin said:

The really good public teams can for sure compete with DII.  To say otherwise is asinine.

6A Science Hill from East TN lost to Brentwood Academy 45-42 in 2014.  That same year, Maryville beat Science Hill 45-0.

6A Blackman beat McCallie in 2015

At the time 2A Alcoa beat McCallie in 2005

6A Oakland beat Baylor in 2014

6A Whitehaven lost to Brentwood Academy 17-14 this year

3A Pearl Cohn beat MBA this year

6A Independence beat MBA in 2009

4A Melrose beat Christian Brothers in 2006 and 2007

6A White Station beat Christian Brothers this year

6A Ravenwood beat Father Ryan last year

And there have also been numerous close losses for public schools to privates

I knew some of these, and some of these I figured out in about 10 minutes of research.  I'm sure there are other examples.  Just because everyone doesn't play everybody else every year, doesn't mean that they can't compete.  Ask Brentwood Academy fans or players if they think Whitehaven can compete with DII.  I think we both know the answer to that.  And Oakland or Maryville will win 6A this year, not Whitehaven, so I'd say Maryville or Oakland could compete with BA or other DII teams as well

If there was a real study done of 6A/old5A vs DIIAAA , 6AAA/old 5A would be less than 30% winning against the to DII division. Most top 6A/ old5A teams won't even attempt to schedule a top DII football team. I say old 5A because there has not been a 6A for long enough. You showed some random examples of public defeating/competing against top DII teams. I could cherry pick some of that also. Doesn't mean crap. It's all IFL and l like my opinion. If someone wants to do a head to head comparison of top 6A/5A vs DIIAAA/oldDIIAA, (when it was the top private division) go ahead. Coach T goes back to 2000 I think. And let's count wins/losses. Close or almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

[TinPigskin]

3 hours ago, BigTime1950 said:

If there was a real study done of 6A/old5A vs DIIAAA , 6AAA/old 5A would be less than 30% winning against the to DII division. Most top 6A/ old5A teams won't even attempt to schedule a top DII football team. I say old 5A because there has not been a 6A for long enough. You showed some random examples of public defeating/competing against top DII teams. I could cherry pick some of that also. Doesn't mean crap. It's all IFL and l like my opinion. If someone wants to do a head to head comparison of top 6A/5A vs DIIAAA/oldDIIAA, (when it was the top private division) go ahead. Coach T goes back to 2000 I think. And let's count wins/losses. Close or almost only counts in horseshoes and hand grenades.

Once again, my point still stands.  Even if the public schools only beat the privates 30% of the time, they are still competitive.  And this primarily holds true for the really good public schools.  The privates should win 70% or more of the time.  They have obvious advantages.....which is why they're private.

Oh, and you keep mentioning the IFL (which apparently you don't know the meaning of), but the games I mentioned are not "crap" as you say, and it's not "all imaginary".  They actually took place, and unbeknownst to you, the games actually count.

If Brentwood Academy doesn't have Maryville on their schedule, is it BA's fault or Maryville's fault?  I say the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

If MBA doesn't have Oakland on their schedule, is it MBA's fault or Oakland's fault?  Likewise, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

As far as why a specific team doesn't end up on another specific team's schedule, there are certain motivational factors including financial motivations and schedule conflicts that dictate acceptable explanations as to why someone didn't meet up on the field.  I don't think that either is afraid to play each other, as you implied.

If you want to do a study or comparison as you suggest, knock yourself out.  I'll be here to say the same......the really good public schools can compete with the privates on any given night.  And the private team coaches and players would echo the same sentiment.

[BigTime1950]

10 hours ago, TinPigskin said:

Once again, my point still stands.  Even if the public schools only beat the privates 30% of the time, they are still competitive.  And this primarily holds true for the really good public schools.  The privates should win 70% or more of the time.  They have obvious advantages.....which is why they're private.

Oh, and you keep mentioning the IFL (which apparently you don't know the meaning of), but the games I mentioned are not "crap" as you say, and it's not "all imaginary".  They actually took place, and unbeknownst to you, the games actually count.

If Brentwood Academy doesn't have Maryville on their schedule, is it BA's fault or Maryville's fault?  I say the truth lies somewhere in the middle.

If MBA doesn't have Oakland on their schedule, is it MBA's fault or Oakland's fault?  Likewise, I think the truth is somewhere in the middle.

As far as why a specific team doesn't end up on another specific team's schedule, there are certain motivational factors including financial motivations and schedule conflicts that dictate acceptable explanations as to why someone didn't meet up on the field.  I don't think that either is afraid to play each other, as you implied.

If you want to do a study or comparison as you suggest, knock yourself out.  I'll be here to say the same......the really good public schools can compete with the privates on any given night.  And the private team coaches and players would echo the same sentiment.

If two teams played head to head ten times and one only won three times, that is domination. So now you are speaking for DII coaches and players?     A lot of people on this site say put public's and privates back together like the old days. The public's would protest this 100 times more than the privates.