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Inconsistent is being calm.

 

We have lost a game on balk that wasn't ...

 

........and yesterday, the JV umpire showed up drunk, not tipsy or buzzing, he was wobbling drunk and smelled like vodka. It was horrible and he was horrible, these were 13,14,15 yr old jv players and they had to see this stuff. Im disapointed as a coach and fan.

 

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Inconsistent is being calm.

 

We have lost a game on balk that wasn't ...

 

........and yesterday, the JV umpire showed up drunk, not tipsy or buzzing, he was wobbling drunk and smelled like vodka.  It was horrible and he was horrible, these were 13,14,15 yr old jv players and they had to see this stuff.  Im disapointed as a coach and fan.

 

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If you had an umpire show up like that then he needs to be reported. Have someone get with the assigning officer for your area and get him out of the umpiring ranks if he was in fact drunk...

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i have a question the other day we had a runner that got stuck between 2nd and 3rd and was almost back and the ss tagged him but he tagged him with his glove he had the ball in his bear hand i didnt think this should have been called out and the inconsistendy part of it is that the same ump called the guy safe when one of our players just got him with the glove and not the ball just thought i might get some help on this and by the way we have had horrible umps the past 3 games in a row they have made some inexcusable calls that cost us one game

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i just started umpiring last year and i ump 12 and 13 year olds.  i am also a baseball player.  before i started umping i felt the same as most of you do, but once i started doing that i can now easily realize that it isnt as easy as it looks.  i know that that is their job and they should do it right, but you gotta give these guys a break.  its hard to be 100% consistent throughout a game no matter how good you are.  you cant really be giving these guys that tough of a time until youve umpired yourself and realize how hard it really can be.

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i know it aint easy to do the job but if u dont get down to where u can see where the ball goes then the ump is not doin his job because u can not see where the ball goes if u are standing stright up all the ones i have seen have been standing up. and i know that u can not do that and get an accurate call

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I know there are missed calls in almost any game, and most "misses" depend on which team you have an emotional connection with. I do believe that most umpires approach the games in a manner to "Just call what they see" and get it right in their opinion. I can say that after many years of playing, coaching and watching baseball, that I have seen more poorly played games than poorly called ones. Nobody is perfect, but each participant (players,coaches and umpires)are at a game to pursue that perfection. Play Ball!

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I know there are missed calls in almost any game, and most "misses" depend on  which team you have an emotional connection with. I do believe that most umpires approach the games in a manner to "Just call what they see" and get it right in their opinion. I can say that after many years of playing, coaching and watching baseball, that I have seen more poorly played games than poorly called ones. Nobody is perfect, but each participant (players,coaches and umpires)are at a game to pursue that perfection. Play Ball!

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I agree totally. Any player or coach should be required to call at least one game on a real baseball level and it would give them a different perspective. I had a coach that once told me that there are three strikes for a reason: the hitter gets one, the pitcher gets one and the umpire gets one.

 

In a average season, I'd be willing to bet a team loses a lot less than one game as a result of poor calling. Being called out on strikes is inexcusable except in extreme situations such as a ball in the dirt or amazingly unreachable by the catcher. I dont' see enough coaches getting onto players for taking pitches close enough to possibly be called.

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i have a question the other day we had a runner that got stuck between 2nd and 3rd and was almost back and the ss tagged him but he tagged him with his glove he had the ball in his bear hand i didnt think this should have been called out and the inconsistendy part of it is that the same ump called the guy safe when one of  our players just got him with the glove and not the ball just thought i might get some help on this and by the way we have had horrible umps the past 3 games in a row they have made some inexcusable calls that cost us one game

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He has to be tagged with the ball.

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I've seen bad umps and good umps, just like bad players and good players, and bad games and good games. Good coaches and bad coaches for that matter, too.

 

A couple of thoughts: first, bad teams and bad players get feedback. They fail. Bad umps just keep on umping badly. I think one of the serious weaknesses of the TSSAA umping system is that the blues don't get regular feedback on the quality of their strike zone.

 

Second, while I agree that a bad call doesn't often cause a team to win or lose (it does happen, though, in close games), even if bad umping is "fair"--that is, bad for both teams--it can change the nature of the game. I watched an umpire tonight who had a very poor strike zone, adding about 3-4 inches on the outside of the plate. That meant that hitters had to chase pitches out of the strike zone, which made it hard to hit the ball.

 

And to give the blues credit, the plate umpire in the LC-Maryville game was excellent.

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Has anyone seen a ump put his hand on the catchers head when the pitcher is pitching. Last night Middleton was playing Adamsville and at least three times I saw the ump place his hand on the catchers head. One time he even pulled his head back as the pitch was coming to the plate. This was just part of the problem with this ump.

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I've seen bad umps and good umps, just like bad players and good players, and bad games and good games. Good coaches and bad coaches for that matter, too.

 

A couple of thoughts: first, bad teams and bad players get feedback. They fail. Bad umps just keep on umping badly. I think one of the serious weaknesses of the TSSAA umping system is that the blues don't get regular feedback on the quality of their strike zone.

 

Second, while I agree that a bad call doesn't often cause a team to win or lose (it does happen, though, in close games), even if bad umping is "fair"--that is, bad for both teams--it can change the nature of the game. I watched an umpire tonight who had a very poor strike zone, adding about 3-4 inches on the outside of the plate. That meant that hitters had to chase pitches out of the strike zone, which made it hard to hit the ball.

 

And to give the blues credit, the plate umpire in the LC-Maryville game was excellent.

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i have a question for you are you that close to the plate that you can say it was 3-4 inches outside even if it was if the pitcher is throwing strikes if you think about it that is only about 1 baseball and in high school you will get that call everyday we are not dealing with major league pitchers so if you get a 1 baseball outside you will get that strike call espcially if the kid is staying around the plate and that is not a hard pitch to hit i have seen many of those go ever the fence and still hasnt landed yet also you take that pitch backside if he is calling that pitch for both sides then you shouldnt have any complaints if your coach is good he wants that pitch called too because he also has a pitcher. as far as feedback on our strike zone...yes i would love to see one of my games called and see how consistent and good my zone is however it is high school baseball there is no money for that type of thing when you leave the feild you usually know how well your zone was that day

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