Jewlery Rule

[Grace Golden Eagles]

jewelry rule

 

what is it?

Only girls should wear jewelry.

 

VG, I'm with you on this one...

[VolunteerGeneral]

VG, I'm with you on this one...

 

[straightbill307]

I agree VG. But anyways I do not see why you could not wear it. Its not like it gives you magical powers or something lol

[EastRidge010]

Well I Had Always Heard That You Could Where A Religious Peice Of Jewelry, Such As A Cross Charm On A Necklace, As Long As It Couldn't Be Seen!

[ksgovols]

I don't have a problem with an ejection if the umpire's first warning was at the home plate meeting. I have a problem with blue calling the batter out. There's no rule that states the batter can be called out for wearing jewelry, using profanity or slinging his bat. The proper call could be to eject the player and have a substitute take his place in the batting order and the count would be assumed, but he's not out.

 

I've argued the slung bat out successfully more than once as a youth league coach. When he issues his warning that the next batter that slings a bat will be ejected, tell him from that point on the game will be played under protest. This was a protestable call since the umpire was siting some 'rule'. Protest the game and call him on it. He should know the rules if he's going to make the ruling. I'm a blue and I'd make the kid put his bracelet in his pocket and proceed with the game.

[PTSportsWriter]

I don't have a problem with an ejection if the umpire's first warning was at the home plate meeting. I have a problem with blue calling the batter out. There's no rule that states the batter can be called out for wearing jewelry, using profanity or slinging his bat. The proper call could be to eject the player and have a substitute take his place in the batting order and the count would be assumed, but he's not out.

 

I've argued the slung bat out successfully more than once as a youth league coach. When he issues his warning that the next batter that slings a bat will be ejected, tell him from that point on the game will be played under protest. This was a protestable call since the umpire was siting some 'rule'. Protest the game and call him on it. He should know the rules if he's going to make the ruling. I'm a blue and I'd make the kid put his bracelet in his pocket and proceed with the game.

 

I've talked to several umpires - and they all said they would've made the kid take off the necklace (a very thin, small chain at that) and continue.

 

I think especially since its a critical game situation, down four with 2 on and 2 out in the inning (bottom of 3) - calling the kid out takes the game out of the players hands.

 

This ump was likely a rookie umpire evidenced by this action and his actions on the called strikeout I mentioned in the original post in the thread. As nit-picky as that was; the actions on the called third strike really angered me from just a personal viewpoint. I'm still almost thinking of calling the state office to voice my displeasure an umpire do that to any kid, regardless of team.

[HRB6]

The rule in HS clearly states that in rule 3.3.1 that a player shall not wear jewelery..... A warning shall be issued after the infraction, after that the ejection will take place.

[CUBCADET]

I don't have a problem with an ejection if the umpire's first warning was at the home plate meeting. I have a problem with blue calling the batter out. There's no rule that states the batter can be called out for wearing jewelry, using profanity or slinging his bat. The proper call could be to eject the player and have a substitute take his place in the batting order and the count would be assumed, but he's not out.

 

I've argued the slung bat out successfully more than once as a youth league coach. When he issues his warning that the next batter that slings a bat will be ejected, tell him from that point on the game will be played under protest. This was a protestable call since the umpire was siting some 'rule'. Protest the game and call him on it. He should know the rules if he's going to make the ruling. I'm a blue and I'd make the kid put his bracelet in his pocket and proceed with the game.

I think you should know the rules a little better if you think you should protest something like slinging the bat rule in youth leagues.. that is silly. If a H.S. ump issues a team warning for jewelry, then the warning extends to ALL team members whether in the game or not at that time..When the warning has been issued , then any player (starter or sub) who enters the field of play with jewelry on is to be ejected without further warning..however I think most umps will discreetly make them take it off unless it is the player first found to be in violation. Tnen if it is the original one, then he should eject them at once..RULES ARE RULES, NO MATTER HOW UNIMPORTANT they may seem..As for profanity, the coaches have been told at preseason meetings etc. that any profanity will NOT BE TOLERATED..no warning given!!!!!

[uknowme]

There is no warning for profanity. An umpire is supposed to eject right away. Do you go to the preseason coaches/umpires meetings with TSSAA?

Actually I've never missed a state or local meeting. Furthermore, I've never missed or local or state clinic. And yes, there is a warning for profanity. Profanity used loadly enough for fans to hear does not get a warning, however. We have been told that other "mildly" profane words not used directly toward us can be warned. For example, if a player boots a ground ball and mumbles "d*** it", that is not something we have been instructed to eject for. Any other questions?

[uknowme]

When he issues his warning that the next batter that slings a bat will be ejected, tell him from that point on the game will be played under protest. This was a protestable call since the umpire was siting some 'rule'. Protest the game and call him on it. He should know the rules if he's going to make the ruling. I'm a blue and I'd make the kid put his bracelet in his pocket and proceed with the game.

TSSAA does not allow for protests. A coach can ask for it all he wants, but that doesn't matter. The only avenue for a coach is to contact the TSSAA on the next business day and explain the situation. They will decide what, if anything, will be done. You are correct on the ejection/out situation, however. While the rule calls for an ejection and not an out for subsequent actions after a team warning has been issued, many youth tournaments implement the rule that an out is called. The reason is that many youth teams commonly only have nine or ten players. If they have only nine and one is ejected, they can't continue with eight. They can only continue with eight if one was lost due to injury or illness or non-game related issues.

Edited April 22, 2006 by uknowme

[ksgovols]

I think you should know the rules a little better if you think you should protest something like slinging the bat rule in youth leagues.. that is silly. If a H.S. ump issues a team warning for jewelry, then the warning extends to ALL team members whether in the game or not at that time..When the warning has been issued , then any player (starter or sub) who enters the field of play with jewelry on is to be ejected without further warning..however I think most umps will discreetly make them take it off unless it is the player first found to be in violation. Tnen if it is the original one, then he should eject them at once..RULES ARE RULES, NO MATTER HOW UNIMPORTANT they may seem..As for profanity, the coaches have been told at preseason meetings etc. that any profanity will NOT BE TOLERATED..no warning given!!!!!

 

 

Read the post. I have a problem with blue calling the batter OUT! Eject him if you want. He's not out. Same with the phantom slung bat rule. There is no rule. That's grounds for a protest if an umpire makes a ruling based on something not in the rule book. If you want to eject him, fine. You can't call him out by any rule in any baseball rule book I've ever seen. Rules are rules. Enforce them. Don't make them up.

[ksgovols]

TSSAA does not allow for protests. A coach can ask for it all he wants, but that doesn't matter. The only avenue for a coach is to contact the TSSAA on the next business day and explain the situation. They will decide what, if anything, will be done.

 

Yep. That's why I used the youth league reference. The TSSAA should have a protest committee for tournament play, especially if the guy calling kids out for wearing jewelry is behind the dish. I understand that there's not enough personel to handle protests during the regular season. You're sort of stuck with who you get. I'd certainly call the umpire association that schedules umpires and register a complaint with the TSSAA office for obvious indiscretions.

Edited April 22, 2006 by ksgovols