BDURHAM Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 The idea of really high test scores is a bad one. Come on Volunteer General! You want to give financial aid to only those students who have high tests? Speaking of the other topic -- all the 4A and 5A coaches will have the same problems with privates that 1A and 2A have. But there should be private school representatives voting on the TSSAA Board. Taxation without representation... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoHasLanded Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Just1NP...I don't think you understand where I live...I live in East Memphis and my parents felt it would not be good for me to attend a public school...some of them are very nice (like germantown or white station) but some of them aren't as great...Public schools in Memphis and Public schools in the rest of the state are quite different, Most schools in Memphis do a poor job of teaching kids, and until last year weren't air conditioned so kids only went to school for half a day...I would have to go to Ridgeway, which is a nice school don't get me wrong, but my brother and I probably wouldn't have made their basketball team and I wouldn't have had the oppurtunity to start on the football team if I went there, many parents send their kids to private schoools for different reasons IN THE CITY OF MEMPHIS! 1-EDUCATION 2-STAY OUT OF TROUBLE 3-RELIGIOUS 4-LOCATION (I live within 2 miles of MUS, BCS, CBHS, and Lausanne, thats another reason kids go there) I don't want to make this a racial thing, But I have been to other schools from East TN, THS, Cosby, and they are alot different from public schools in Memphis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoHasLanded Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 One more thing that I forgot to post.. Just1NP you said that a family was stupid for paying for a high school education over a college education... When was it ever written that families were responsible for a college education...that responsibility is for the kids themselves, they can get scholarships, grants, or loans... I have a friend who was told at an early age that his parents were not going to pay for his college, they spent 8K a year to send him to a private school, gave him a car for his birthday, paid for his gas and insurance, but after that he was on his own...that might sound harsh, but thats how life is...fortunately this individual was a great student, an excellent baseball player, and is receiving 41K a year to go to Vanderbilt... I would like the tickets, please email me at agentTJ6@hotmail.com with your price, thank you. [Edited by TheEgoHasLanded on 6/2/02 12:52P] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoHasLanded Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 I'm for a split just because I am sick of hearing people whine about it not being fair...D2 isn't fair...some teams can give more money, Some teams dont give scholarships, the Super 7 beats up on the D2-AA, teams are forced to play a cross state game for no reason what so ever...hey life isn't fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 What would be wrong with this? DIVISION II, 3 classes Division II-AAA, 10 schools Christian Brothers 1722 McCallie 1208 Father Ryan 1000 MBA 870 MUS 784 Baylor 607 Notre Dame 582 Briarcrest 556 Lipscomb 513 Brentwood Academy 337 You're right about travel, it's ridiculous for Baylor to have to go to Memphis for a regular season game. So cut out such travel. Have Baylor, for example, play in-town opponents McCallie and Notre Dame in their own region. A Nashville region would be Father Ryan, MBA, Lipscomb, Brentwood Academy and of course a Memphis region would be Christian Brothers, MUS and Briarcrest. Yes, I know one of those has 4 teams but here's the solution. Take the top two teams of each region and then two more 'wild cards' for the playoffs. I'm sure you could compare results and such to match them up quite easily. Division II-AA schools with 249-495 students (approximately 250-500) 16 teams, 4 teams in a region ECS 495 Knoxville Catholic 426 Harding Academy 424 Webb 417 St Benedict 413 BGA 393 Goodpasture 377 Donelson Christian 335 Davidson Academy 324 USJ 316 Boyd-Buchanan 305 Ezell-Harding 289 FRA 283 CPA 269 CAK 249 Friendship 249 East Region-Knoxville Webb, Knoxville Catholic, CAK, Boyd-Buchanan West Region-ECS, Harding Academy, St. Benedict, USJ Nashville region-BGA, DCA, Ezell-Harding, CPA Nashville region 2-Goodpasture, Davidson Academy, FRA, Friendship This one wasn't too hard to figure out at all. The only thing, since there was no good way to cut the Nashville teams, I just started with the largest enrollment and switched back and forth. 2 teams from each region make the playoffs. In one year, one Nashville #2 goes to Chattanooga/Knoxville and the other goes to Memphis, switch it the next year so you won't have a team having to go as far each season possibly. Division II-Class A 14 teams, 2 regions 4 from each making the playoffs SBEC 238 Fayette Academy 225 Jackson Christian 223 Columbia Academy 217 SAS 196 Clarksville Academy 180 Memphis Catholic 180 Nashville Christian 170 Lasaunne 156 Bishop Byrne 138 Lighthouse Christian 137 Trinity Christian 131 King's Academy 85 Elliston 74 East: King's Academy, Lighthouse Christian, Nashville Christian, Clarksville Academy, SAS, Columbia Academy West: Elliston, Trinity Christian, Bishop Byrne, Lausanne, Memphis Catholic, Jackson Christian, Fayette Academy, SBEC This one was a little trickier and I had to have 6 from one and 8 in another, but that happens with regions now anyway. The travel would be long for King's Academy going to Clarksville, but it would just be once every two years and don't they go to Memphis now? [Edited by Indian on 6/2/02 2:04P] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEgoHasLanded Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Notre Dame would get killed in D2-AAA they were the 5th best team in D2-AA and couldn't compete, especially when Bowman is gone... CBHS doesn't have 1722, they have about 800 boys, I think the 1722 includes like St. Agnes, and IC... The D2-AA looks pretty tough all over, if it was played today I would say Harding and USJ would come out of the west... Ezell and CPA out of the middle In D2-A it would be Byrne and SBEC or Fayette Goodpasture and FRA out of the other bracket, but I don't really know anything about them. And Webb and Boyd out of the east I like it, and I think it would be pretty tough and exciting, and yes Robman, I like it more then the present format. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolunteerGeneral Posted June 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 just1np...Go back and read my post and you`ll see this... That`s a few of the misconceptions that I have seen here. I`m not saying that you are the one who said any of them just1np, but you asked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolunteerGeneral Posted June 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Stan Trott...I don`t think I said give aid to only those with high test scores. I said only those with high test scores who received aid could play sports. there is a difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antwan Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 just1np, I do like your plan. I think the privates should have to play in 4a & 5a if they want to stay in division I. Really, I would like to see a total split. If that's not going to happen, then your plan is a reasonable compromise. There is no need for you privates to tell me that we should want to play the best to be the best. If that's true, why don't all of you 1a & 2a privates go play in 4a. The competition is better. You should be able to compete since you have such better coaching and work so much harder. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VolunteerGeneral Posted June 2, 2002 Author Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 Antwan...If public schools don`t think they can compete in Div. 1A, then maybe they should drop out and form a Div.III Of course any public school that wants to remain is welcome to do so. There are many 1A public schools that are very good teams. [Edited by VolunteerGeneral on 6/2/02 5:16P] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 There are some 1A and 2A private schools that could compete in higher divisions, namely Goodpasture and some others. But it wouldn't be fair to put Lighthouse Christian and others in with schools that have 2,000 students. A total split would be fair for all, Lighthouse currently is in with teams such as Ezell-Harding and CPA, with a three-class Division II with all the privates they'd be in with the smallest currently 1A privates and have a better chance for improving. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Antwan Posted June 2, 2002 Report Share Posted June 2, 2002 VG, Very few public 1a schools have a chance to compete with the division 1a privates. I am not going to go into the obvious reasons why. The split will come, probably in 2005. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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