Baylor v.s. McCallie, This year should be good

[Chattcity]

Chattcity - you appear to have some inside knowledge of McCallie's lineup shown in your predictions? I haven't seen Silberman in a box score this season, or last, or 2 years ago. Hope he is back, but wouldn't it be more reasonable for him to return as an underdog than a favorite? Also, hasn't Watson pinned Westbrook every time they have wrestled in high school and again only 3 days ago? Why only a major now? Is it realistic to expect a new addition to the lineup in Helton to only lose by a major to Manley? Why is Hooker now going to decision Dostor since Dostor has won the last 2 meetings? I'm hearing that Hooker has tired of Dostor and is going to give Hayes a go anyway.

 

How about these predictions?

 

Elsea p. Standefer M 6-0

Ward p. Eady M 12-0

Watson p. Westbrooks M 12-6

Manley p. Helton M 12-12

Reece d. Silberman B 15-12

Hayes d. Hooker B 18-12

Doster p. ?????? B 24-12

Cate d. Clements B 27-12

Duncan p. Craig B 27-18

Martino p. Bodine B 27-24

Bullard d. Condrey B 30-24

Ferguson p. Prevost B 36-24

Helton p. Satterfield B 42-24

Mackey p. Kinch B 48-24

 

I appreciate your belief that I have some insider information. Neither Gordon or Jim have consulted me so I am just like everyone else--WAG'N my view. Not sure about Silberman but I think he has a good shot at winning, assuming he's back. I agree that's a toss up. Watson is just coming back and I think you will notice that Westbrooks has really done well as the year has progressed. He's much improved. Manley's track record against McCallie is good but he hasn't won over the years as convingly as some think he should. Besides, I think Helton is better than people realize. Hooker and Doster have traded wins over the years--just a guess that it's Hooker's turn.

 

And if you are hearing that "Hooker has tired of Doster and is going to give Hayes a try", you have more inside info than I do.

[Heybou]

Chattcity - you appear to have some inside knowledge of McCallie's lineup shown in your predictions? I haven't seen Silberman in a box score this season, or last, or 2 years ago. Hope he is back, but wouldn't it be more reasonable for him to return as an underdog than a favorite? Also, hasn't Watson pinned Westbrook every time they have wrestled in high school and again only 3 days ago? Why only a major now? Is it realistic to expect a new addition to the lineup in Helton to only lose by a major to Manley? Why is Hooker now going to decision Dostor since Dostor has won the last 2 meetings? I'm hearing that Hooker has tired of Dostor and is going to give Hayes a go anyway.

 

How about these predictions?

 

Elsea p. Standefer M 6-0

Ward p. Eady M 12-0

Watson p. Westbrooks M 12-6

Manley p. Helton M 12-12

Reece d. Silberman B 15-12

Hayes d. Hooker B 18-12

Doster p. ?????? B 24-12

Cate d. Clements B 27-12

Duncan p. Craig B 27-18

Martino p. Bodine B 27-24

Bullard d. Condrey B 30-24

Ferguson p. Prevost B 36-24

Helton p. Satterfield B 42-24

Mackey p. Kinch B 48-24

 

I appreciate your belief that I have some insider information. Neither Gordon or Jim have consulted me so I am just like everyone else--WAG'N my view. Not sure about Silberman but I think he has a good shot at winning, assuming he's back. I agree that's a toss up. Watson is just coming back and I think you will notice that Westbrooks has really done well as the year has progressed. He's much improved. Manley's track record against McCallie is good but he hasn't won over the years as convingly as some think he should. Besides, I think Helton is better than people realize. Hooker and Doster have traded wins over the years--just a guess that it's Hooker's turn.

 

And if you are hearing that "Hooker has tired of Doster and is going to give Hayes a try", you have more inside info than I do.

 

If Silberman is back, I see no way that he wins at 130. He hasnt wrestled a match in almost three years, and he wasnt a standout back then. Yes, Westbrooks has done well this season but Watson pinned him this weekend and Watson is getting better everyday while he is still recovering from his injury. Manley hasnt always pinned Mccallie kids but he has never wrestled someone from Mccallie as inexperienced as Helton. Helton got pinned twice this weekend and Manley won the tournament. I dont see how Helton is better than people realize, the first time I had heard of him was this weekend where he had a poor showing. Helton,1-13, was pinned twice this weekend both times in the first period, and in the same tournament, Manley pinned both the two kids that pinned Helton. And from everything I have heard, Hooker might be giving 135 a go.

[tnlonghorn]

The score will be 45-27 Baylor. Guranteed

[In Hoc Signo Vinces]

No horse in this race but my predictions:

 

103- Elsea p. Standefer M 6-0

112- Ward p. Eady M 12-0

119- Watson md. Westbrooks M 12-4

125- Manley p. Helton M 12-10

130- Silberman d. Reece M 15-10

135- Hayes d. Hooker M 15-13

140- Doster p.??? B 19-15

145- Clements d. Cate B 19-18

152- Duncan p. Craig M 24-19

160- Martino p. Bodine M 30-19

171- Condrey d. Bullard M 33-19

189- Ferguson p. Prevost M 33-25

215 Helton p. Satterfield M 33-31

285 Mackey md. Kinch B 35-33

 

Close match but I think Baylor has got the edge, hope I am wrong though

[bear cat brown]

Where is the venerable Bear Cat Brown on this one? Come here Kitty and give us your prediction. With all due respect to likes of mtnrasslin, Raider76, Wrestle90, bigblu1 and ChattCity, those of us over here across the mountains have come to anticipate and rely on BCB's shrewd analysis of this annual match-up and trust him a bit more than those of you with built-in bias to one team or the other, particularly now that BCB is no longer in TBSFBAG public relations department. We would like to see his breakdown. Absent that, I am going to have to go with Texas23 on this one------I look for TBSFBAG to administer a good spanking to the EBE----- the only question I have is whether the shoes will come off before the pants get pulled down.

 

 

 

My Dearest Bucky Poo,

 

I made my predition early in the year and if you would quit taken those little blue pills that start with a viagra your memory would have recalled my.... now what was I taking about........ geez it's on the tip of my tongue next to the pill I just took....that's right rasslin.

 

You see Uncle Buck,the high heel wearing, finger pointing Wrestle90, is correct, this will be a closer match, unlike years past. Had Mr Watson and Helton not come back I could even imagine a cold bottle of Dr Pepper popping at the post match party attented by all 3 fans. But alas Buck You, It won't happen this year. The big boys for tbsfbag will be the ones pulling down the singlets and spanking some big ol blue butt.

 

The way it will go down.. by bcb iii

 

Match starts at 103

 

103: Elsea (EBE) dec Standifer

112: Ward (EBE) Mdec Eady

119: Mr Watson (tbsfbag) pins Westbrooks (sorry timmy)

125: Manley (tbsfbag) pins Helton

130: Reece (tbsfbag) pins ?? My top notch crack research team has given me no info on Silberman returning....but if he does Silberman (McC) dec Reece

135: Hayes (tbsfbag) pins Martin

140: Mr Doster (tbsfbag)dec.You're a Hooker

145: Clements (EBE) dec. Cate

152: Mr Duncan (EBE) pins Craig

160: Martino (EBE) pins Bodine

171: Shuford (tbsfbag) pins Condrey

189: Ferguson (tbsfbag) pin Prevost

215: Helton (tbsfbag) pins Satterfield

285: Mackey (tbsfbag) pins Kinch

 

Final Score

TBSFBAG...45

EBE..........25

 

or

 

TBSFBAG...51

EBE..........22

 

Some really good matches Bucky Dent, but the boys in those god awful leg warmers win again.

 

The ? is where will a meeting take place ??

 

bcb iii

[Chattcity]

Wow, BCB, that's quite a bottom paddling.

BuckLat--I thought you said BCB was off of the TBSFBAG public relations team??

[ynotme]

CubCat Brown - Although humorous, your predictions are normally much more reasoned. Clements has been out injured for apx a month. With both at 100% its a pickem type match with Cate. Clements has to be considered the underdog. Clements times 36 on Silberman. He's a huge underdog against anybody decent. If watching wrestling made you better, then all the old farts in the stands would be the studs. Wrestle90 predicting a "closer match" every year is as predictable as Beano Cook predicting an undefeated football season for your college Irish.

[BuckLateral]

 

My Dearest Bucky Poo,

 

I made my predition early in the year and if you would quit taken those little blue pills that start with a viagra your memory would have recalled my.... now what was I taking about........ geez it's on the tip of my tongue next to the pill I just took....that's right rasslin.

 

You see Uncle Buck,the high heel wearing, finger pointing Wrestle90, is correct, this will be a closer match, unlike years past. Had Mr Watson and Helton not come back I could even imagine a cold bottle of Dr Pepper popping at the post match party attented by all 3 fans. But alas Buck You, It won't happen this year. The big boys for tbsfbag will be the ones pulling down the singlets and spanking some big ol blue butt.

 

The way it will go down.. by bcb iii

 

Match starts at 103

 

103: Elsea (EBE) dec Standifer

112: Ward (EBE) Mdec Eady

119: Mr Watson (tbsfbag) pins Westbrooks (sorry timmy)

125: Manley (tbsfbag) pins Helton

130: Reece (tbsfbag) pins ?? My top notch crack research team has given me no info on Silberman returning....but if he does Silberman (McC) dec Reece

135: Hayes (tbsfbag) pins Martin

140: Mr Doster (tbsfbag)dec.You're a Hooker

145: Clements (EBE) dec. Cate

152: Mr Duncan (EBE) pins Craig

160: Martino (EBE) pins Bodine

171: Shuford (tbsfbag) pins Condrey

189: Ferguson (tbsfbag) pin Prevost

215: Helton (tbsfbag) pins Satterfield

285: Mackey (tbsfbag) pins Kinch

 

Final Score

TBSFBAG...45

EBE..........25

 

or

 

TBSFBAG...51

EBE..........22

 

Some really good matches Bucky Dent, but the boys in those god awful leg warmers win again.

 

The ? is where will a meeting take place ??

 

bcb iii

 

Thanks, grasshopper, I knew we could count on you to post something non-controversial.

 

I do recall you making your prediction under another topic, but that was before Watson got injured, Helton returned and other goings on. I wanted to see if you had changed your mind as the season progressed. It appears that you have, but even I did not expect a runaway train.Interesting picks. You are the first, and I believe only one so far, to slide Shuford in at 171 for TBSFBAG. That is a difference maker. Everyone else has another wrestler in there and has been giving the weight to the EBE. If Shuford is in there, healthy and can wrestle, that would certainly throw a monkey wrench into some of the predictions so far of a close match or an EBE upset......a possible 9 or 12 point swing to TBSFBAG. I checked the Southeastern Slam brackets for this past weekend and did not see Shuford in there for TBSFAG. So, where are you coming from with this pick? As always, I'm sure you have some classified information the rest of that Nooga bunch can't get their mitts on. Or is this just another one of your SWAGs.

 

Does this lopsided prediction indicate that you are back on TBSFBAG payroll? Are they recruiting Jack? Trying to get him to transfer? Do you live on the Georgia side of the mountain? If so, then as a Georgia resident, maybe Jack could wrestle in tournaments in Georgia while sitting out a year in Tennessee for transferring without "a bona fide change in residence". I think there may be a way to do that. Just make sure he never says the word "scholarship" when asked why he is at TBSFAG.

 

Will you be attending the match wearing that purple warm-up?

 

BTW: It is Bucky F. Dent-------- I don't have any love for the Yankees.

[whiskeyjoe]

How will Coach C. shuffle his lineup? Will there be ANY forfeits? Will Shuford and Silberman be in the lineup? How rusty will those vets who've been out all season be? Will Hooker fight Doster or Hayes? Will team scores be posted on the clock? Will anybody lose his shoe at a critical point in his match? Will CupCake be sporting his read sweater vest? I don't remember this much suspense since the 2005 match.

 

I assume there will be an intimate pre-match meeting at some hole-in-the-wall near Missionary Ridge and a massive post-match victory throw down at the home of someone from the red team. If anyone knows the locations of same, please advise.

[Wrestle90]

Wrestle90 predicting a "closer match" every year is as predictable as Beano Cook predicting an undefeated football season for your college Irish.

Ynotme - Whynotyou? Because apparently you know nothing! Good enough answer for you? See past your apparently huge bias and jump off your high horse and while you're at it, maybe you could start paying attention to actual wrestling! While your comment is cute, it's highly inaccurate. While it may be hard for YOU to finally realize this match will be closer than most years, those of us that have actually been paying attention to the season and are knowledgeable of the two teams have realized the possibility of a much closer match for some time now. But hey guess what, although I may predict a closer match every year, I'm always right! It's always closer. So once again, cute comment, but take it and shove. Thanks!

[ghouse]

You are the first, and I believe only one so far, to slide Shuford in at 171 for TBSFBAG. That is a difference maker. Everyone else has another wrestler in there and has been giving the weight to the EBE. If Shuford is in there, healthy and can wrestle, that would certainly throw a monkey wrench into some of the predictions so far of a close match or an EBE upset......a possible 9 or 12 point swing to TBSFBAG. I checked the Southeastern Slam brackets for this past weekend and did not see Shuford in there for TBSFAG. So, where are you coming from with this pick? As always, I'm sure you have some classified information the rest of that Nooga bunch can't get their mitts on. Or is this just another one of your SWAGs.

 

Buck,

 

In reference to this: Shufford did wrestle at the Southeast Prep School Slam at 160 pounds. Shufford won his first match by fall, then the brackets show him as an injury default in his second match and as a forfeit in his consolation match... what that means for his status at any weight for this dual is still up in the air.

[BuckLateral]

You are the first, and I believe only one so far, to slide Shuford in at 171 for TBSFBAG. That is a difference maker. Everyone else has another wrestler in there and has been giving the weight to the EBE. If Shuford is in there, healthy and can wrestle, that would certainly throw a monkey wrench into some of the predictions so far of a close match or an EBE upset......a possible 9 or 12 point swing to TBSFBAG. I checked the Southeastern Slam brackets for this past weekend and did not see Shuford in there for TBSFAG. So, where are you coming from with this pick? As always, I'm sure you have some classified information the rest of that Nooga bunch can't get their mitts on. Or is this just another one of your SWAGs.

 

Buck,

 

In reference to this: Shufford did wrestle at the Southeast Prep School Slam at 160 pounds. Shufford won his first match by fall, then the brackets show him as an injury default in his second match and as a forfeit in his consolation match... what that means for his status at any weight for this dual is still up in the air.

 

Thanks, G. I looked at the 171 bracket for the Slam and not the 160 bracket. Your investigative instincts are obviously much better than mine. Makes me even more curious about BCB's insertion of Shuford in the line-up at 171 for TBSFBAG and what BCB knows that we don't know. Wait a minute, let me rephrase that since we may not want to know everything that BCB knows----that could mean jail time. Makes me curious about what BCB knows about TBSFBAG ( and how he knows it) that we don't know.

 

Lots of unanswered questions until BCB gets on here after his daily happy hour run. Was Shuford ready to go and then re-injured himself at the Slam so he can't go against EBE? That could be a game changer. Or did Baylor wrestle him a match in the Slam just to see where he was and then decide against pushing it further with additional matches? BCB obviously thinks he knows the answer. If Shuford is healthy and goes at 171, Watson is back and looking to take his first high school loss out on whoever EBE sends out against him, Helton is in the line-up at 215 and Mackey bums to 285, it is possible that BCB could be right about the final outcome. That are a lot of potential extra match points or pins in the line-up for TBSFBAG with those guys in there. This one might get ugly at the House of Blues.