Gerry Bertier 3A Playoff Bracket

[TynerRamFan]

That is correct. TSSAA shows Howard holds the 2nd tiebreaker over Tyner. It was one calculation I missed this week. So if Tyner and Howard win this week, Howard will be seeded ahead of Tyner even though the Rams just beat the Tigers. This system is terrible, and needs a drastic overhaul. Benard Childress basically blames Ronnie Carter for it, but Mr. Childress was on the staff as well at the time.

 

 

...What's the incentive to win a District that is majority 4-A??? The kids don't like it and neither do I!!! Howard's overall schedule was weaker than Tyners'...no way a head-to-head game doesn't carry the heaviest weight...Childress and the others need to get-a-grip and put a stop to this foolishness!!!

[Indian]

...What's the incentive to win a District that is majority 4-A??? The kids don't like it and neither do I!!! Howard's overall schedule was weaker than Tyners'...no way a head-to-head game doesn't carry the heaviest weight...Childress and the others need to get-a-grip and put a stop to this foolishness!!!

 

 

If you give a head-to-head game the most weight it would cancel out the rest of the season results. That's fine if you're going to give district champs and runner-ups the most credit with drawing the quads, but one of the reasons we're told on that change is how some districts aren't as strong as others. You'd have some wildcards placed lower than district champs and runner-ups though they have a stronger teams most likely (Loudon for an example). That's how it was last year.

 

The 4A teams in Tyner's district aren't too strong this year compared to other 4A teams. They had a chance to go 10-0 but hurt themselves too much with turnovers vs Baylor and Ooltewah so they just have to blame themselves. Tough opponents in higher groups, but still, losses.

 

There are some good things in this new system but the splitting of districts for the postseason is the reason for a lot of the mess.

[Govolsknox]

Gerry,

 

Looking at the remaining games before the brackets, what is the probability in your opinion that Alcoa, CAK, Loudon, and Kingston all end up in quad 2? Do you see a scenario where any of these district foes end up in quad 1?

 

Let me ask more specifically. South Green (5-4) plays Chuckey-Doak (7-2) this Friday. If CD wins this game, how do you see that affecting quad 1 and 2? Does someone from quad 2 likely get moved into quad 1 or does someone else further east spring into the picture for quad 1?

[turfwalker]

Can someone help me and tell me where I can find the latest listing of teams that of now (Top 32) are in the playoff hunt. Almost forgot in 3A.

 

In advance......thanks

Edited October 26, 2010 by turfwalker

[budkilmer]

Gerry,

 

Looking at the remaining games before the brackets, what is the probability in your opinion that Alcoa, CAK, Loudon, and Kingston all end up in quad 2? Do you see a scenario where any of these district foes end up in quad 1?

 

Not sure what Gerry thinks but I don't see it happening. They'll all be in quad 2.

 

Teams that will most likely be in quad one.

Elizabethton

Happy Valley

Sullivan North

Chuckey Doak

West Greene

Gatlinburg Pittman

Austin East

 

All seven of those schools are east of the ones you mentioned and there are seven of those.

 

In all likely hood, South Greene is in win or lose which would make the 8th team. They are definitely in if they win this week.

 

Other teams that have a slim chance but are still in the hunt are Johnson County and Pigeon Forge. If one or both of those teams get in, that pushes Austin East and/or GP to quad 2 as well.

[Govolsknox]

Can someone help me and tell me where I can find the latest listing of teams that of now (Top 32) are in the playoff hunt.

 

In advance......thanks

 

I think this is what you're looking for.

 

http://tssaa.org/footballplayoffs/maps3A.cfm

[budkilmer]

doesn this seem better... district champs get 1 and 2 seeds with the 1 goin to the team with more quality wins fig in strength of schedule and record 2 goin to the second best.. it would give team a lil incentive fore winnin district.. the remaining district champ threw in with the remaining seeds determined by sos wins losses and quality of the teams u win and lose to.. right now as long as u schedule mid level teams even if they are in lower class winnin ur district carries not much weight if any at all.. it would be similar to the way baseball and the nba works including the nfl.. so i think the quad would be more accurate in a differnt format ... maybe like this.. 1 alcoa 8 sweetwater 4 tyner 5 loudon 3 cak 6 howard 2 polk 7 kingston...... does this seem more logical....

 

That's the way it was last year. A lot of 5A, 3A, and 1A playoff team coaches complained because they were in stacked conferences with higher playoff teams. In actuality a 6A team should beat a 5A team and so on. If you're a 3A team that is in a conference with 4 4A teams, it might be more difficult to win your conference than it would say a 3A team with only 1 or 2 4A teams in their conference. Therefore you may be punished by being in the wrong conference. That was the main reasoning to changing it to the format we have this year. I agree with almost everyone, something needs to change.

[AlcoasPaintedBridge]

Let me ask more specifically. South Green (5-4) plays Chuckey-Doak (7-2) this Friday. If CD wins this game, how do you see that affecting quad 1 and 2? Does someone from quad 2 likely get moved into quad 1 or does someone else further east spring into the picture for quad 1?

Just move CAK to Asheville Highway and you can go to quad one.

Catholic moved from Magnolia to Fox Lonas to get into quad 2.....

Edited October 26, 2010 by AlcoasPaintedBridge

[polkalumn01]

If you give a head-to-head game the most weight it would cancel out the rest of the season results. That's fine if you're going to give district champs and runner-ups the most credit with drawing the quads, but one of the reasons we're told on that change is how some districts aren't as strong as others. You'd have some wildcards placed lower than district champs and runner-ups though they have a stronger teams most likely (Loudon for an example). That's how it was last year.

 

The 4A teams in Tyner's district aren't too strong this year compared to other 4A teams. They had a chance to go 10-0 but hurt themselves too much with turnovers vs Baylor and Ooltewah so they just have to blame themselves. Tough opponents in higher groups, but still, losses.

 

There are some good things in this new system but the splitting of districts for the postseason is the reason for a lot of the mess.

the last time i checked baylor was great team with only one loss... so win or lose jus playin them improved tyners schedule.. win or lose it still helped them with the way tssaa looks at tems u play with above .500 record..

[randomposter]

If you give a head-to-head game the most weight it would cancel out the rest of the season results. That's fine if you're going to give district champs and runner-ups the most credit with drawing the quads, but one of the reasons we're told on that change is how some districts aren't as strong as others. You'd have some wildcards placed lower than district champs and runner-ups though they have a stronger teams most likely (Loudon for an example). That's how it was last year.

 

The 4A teams in Tyner's district aren't too strong this year compared to other 4A teams. They had a chance to go 10-0 but hurt themselves too much with turnovers

 

Tyner had just as good of chance to go 10-0 as Loudon did. The difference is that the TSSAA has jobbed Tyner 2 years in a row now and rewarded Loudon for being in the same district as CAK and Alcoa.

 

The timing of this type of criteria change is laughable and should result in some major changes on the board. At the least, this change should have been made in years were each district was realigned with the same amount of teams and everyone was setting up 2 year schedule plans.

[Govolsknox]

Just move CAK to Asheville Highway and you can go to quad one.

Catholic moved from Magnolia to Fox Lonas to get into quad 2.....

 

Umm, it wouldn't be CAK that would move to quad 1....

[Indian]

Tyner had just as good of chance to go 10-0 as Loudon did. The difference is that the TSSAA has jobbed Tyner 2 years in a row now and rewarded Loudon for being in the same district as CAK and Alcoa.

 

The timing of this type of criteria change is laughable and should result in some major changes on the board. At the least, this change should have been made in years were each district was realigned with the same amount of teams and everyone was setting up 2 year schedule plans.

 

 

That's not Loudon's fault.

 

Making the change where wildcards could be higher than district champs and runner-ups was needed, a major complaint last year involved the placements that resulted. The only way to do that is through overall record.