Noise Makers for '13 & 14 - All Divisions...

[oltimer]

The seeding issues need to be addressed, that is for sure, but the eventual state champ will beat whoever is put in front of him. You have to beat the best to be the best. Other than wanting bragging rights of being a placer but not a champ, it doesn't matter all that much. The cream rises. 

 

ITS ALL ABOUT #1 TRUE! BUT NEVER PUT DOWN THOSE THAT PUT IN THE WORK TOO THAT MAY FALL SHORT OF #1 BUT SHOULD STILL GET RESPECT FOR THE EFFORT!

[cbg]

The seeding issues need to be addressed, that is for sure, but the eventual state champ will beat whoever is put in front of him. You have to beat the best to be the best. Other than wanting bragging rights of being a placer but not a champ, it doesn't matter all that much. The cream rises. 

Bragging rights has nothing to do with this.  When you have two or three schools fighting for a team state championship every point counts and the higher a wrestler places the more points for his team.  If you have the 2nd ranked wrestler and the 1st ranked wrestler meeting in the 1st round it could cost someone a state championship.  The poor officiating is difficult enough to overcome and win a team state championship but when the TSSAA uses a blind draw with no separation that's over the top.

[buckeyeintn]

Jesus, Just seed the tournament by region placements and be done with it.  Drop the returning state placer rule. If you don't place in the region, you don't go to state.  If you are sick during region you don't go to state. If you placed 3rd in state last year and don't place 1- 4 in the region guess what ........ you don't go to state.  All divisions. Wow that would be so hard to seed i'm not the smartest person around but crap is crap. What idiot decided that last year should give you a free ride this year. Just because you were the man last year, doesn't mean that you are the man this year.   JUST SEED IT LIKE EVERY OTHER TOURNAMENT IN THE WRESTLING WORLD.

[Pale]

Bragging rights has nothing to do with this.  When you have two or three schools fighting for a team state championship every point counts and the higher a wrestler places the more points for his team.  If you have the 2nd ranked wrestler and the 1st ranked wrestler meeting in the 1st round it could cost someone a state championship.  The poor officiating is difficult enough to overcome and win a team state championship but when the TSSAA uses a blind draw with no separation that's over the top.

My mistake, I thought we were talking about individual, not duals. I'm not sure how you would ever avoid your scenario in duals. 

[Pale]

Jesus, Just seed the tournament by region placements and be done with it.  Drop the returning state placer rule. If you don't place in the region, you don't go to state.  If you are sick during region you don't go to state. If you placed 3rd in state last year and don't place 1- 4 in the region guess what ........ you don't go to state.  All divisions. Wow that would be so hard to seed i'm not the smartest person around but crap is crap. What idiot decided that last year should give you a free ride this year. Just because you were the man last year, doesn't mean that you are the man this year.   JUST SEED IT LIKE EVERY OTHER TOURNAMENT IN THE WRESTLING WORLD.

Agreed

[cbg]

My mistake, I thought we were talking about individual, not duals. I'm not sure how you would ever avoid your scenario in duals. 

Talking about winning the team state championship at the traditional state tournament.

[rlwest40]

Two 8 man brackets seeding the top 4

One 32 man bracket seeding the top 6-8

 

It should not be that time consuming and difficult.

 

We tell our wrestlers all the time "NO EXCUSES", I think the same applies here.

[BlackknightGATA]

Two 8 man brackets seeding the top 4

One 32 man bracket seeding the top 6-8

 

It should not be that time consuming and difficult.

 

We tell our wrestlers all the time "NO EXCUSES", I think the same applies here.

Agreed. The question that begs an answer is why? Why wouldn't they do it the way you describe.

Edited February 5, 2014 by BlackknightGATA

[mat73557]

Agreed. The question that begs an answer is why? Why wouldn't they do it the way you describe.

Now THAT'S the right question!

[BlackknightGATA]

Alphabetical order removes the TFF (Tom foolery factor). Randomness always seems to take a familiar and predictable pattern for some reason...

[TO338]

To seed a State tournament based on the results of one single tournament that took place a year ago is insane!

 

What about a wrestler who was injured last year and was unable to compete at State? He has no opportunity to earn a seed because he missed one single tournament a year ago? Ridiculous.

[Tronado]

A wrestler is not seeded, he is placed. Away from other returning place winners and only if that wrestler wins his region tournament. A lot of people just need an excuse, now all these parents can feel better about themselves because their kid didn't win a state championship because of some one named Tom(Tom foolery factor) , a panel of power brokers that fix brackets, a magic bullet, on his way to victory tripped on the grassy knoll ........holy crap batman. I've looked at state brackets from Tennessee for more than 20 years, 8 for my own sons..in those 8, I never once looked at it and saw a conspiracy theory involved with brackets. We took it one match at a time and talked about what they were gonna try to do to win a wrestling match.