old24eagle Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yea, its hard to get em all in without a lifting period...But I think there is a period some could lift, but dont...THATS the problem! I think there were some issues worked out last night...The ones that want to workout & be ready to play FB, have every chance to do so...The others that dont want to work, can watch the others play I reckon Thats usually how it works out on its own anyway. Occasionaly you will have the freak athlete that could be good enough to play without the work but most times hard work beats out talent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujo Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 I cant believe yall dont get a weightlifting class. We have a strength and conditioning class in the spring semester. Only catch is that it is open to everyone and were only allowed 1 class of it per day and you can only put up to 30 students in a class. so we have 30 kids in the class and 20 or so will be football players. The rest have to stay after school to lift. We have around 30 -35 lifting right now between the class and after school. Some larger publics and most of the privates have it figured out where every athlete gets a class to workout every day. Those schools are the ones lifting gold balls in multiple sports None of our coaches are in a position that they could oversee the strength training. If you had 30 teens going in there by themselves, you would be in for a disaster. We need to get this mess straightened out. Kids will work if you are there with um, but too many don't show up if you do it after school. Its a public school thing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old24eagle Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 None of our coaches are in a position that they could oversee the strength training. If you had 30 teens going in there by themselves, you would be in for a disaster. We need to get this mess straightened out. Kids will work if you are there with um, but too many don't show up if you do it after school. Its a public school thing. Yep, it took a lot of jumping up and down and parents complaining to get the 1 class we have in the spring. and were not gauranteed to have it every year. Before that class we tried before school , after school and both and you just cant get the participation you need like that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujo Posted March 18, 2014 Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 Yep, it took a lot of jumping up and down and parents complaining to get the 1 class we have in the spring. and were not gauranteed to have it every year. Before that class we tried before school , after school and both and you just cant get the participation you need like that Sorta like the Marines. I'm sure Mike will get it straightened out, he knows what it takes to build a football team. You need at least 30 hard working kids. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uknoit2 Posted March 18, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 18, 2014 None of our coaches are in a position that they could oversee the strength training. If you had 30 teens going in there by themselves, you would be in for a disaster. We need to get this mess straightened out. Kids will work if you are there with um, but too many don't show up if you do it after school. Its a public school thing. But heck Pujo, FB and BB practice is AFTER school...and they can stay for that...Naa, lt's a lack of desire and vision Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hampton2005 Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 But heck Pujo, FB and BB practice is AFTER school...and they can stay for that...Naa, lt's a lack of desire and vision True but it is a lot to ask some kids not the most structured and driven to stay after school year around.You will always have a better weight program when you have a weightlifting class during school. 2005 2006 2007 proves that we had weightlifting 4th period and made 3 straight final fours. That just dosen't seem to be the emphasis right now at HHS. Your most dedicated and motivated kids with good parents that push them will do whatever is asked of them by the coaches. But lets face the facts public schools sucess depends much more on how much you can get out of the very marginally motivated kids who come from bad home situations, not your most outstanding. It takes too many kids to have a good program. There are just not that many highly motivated kids in small single A high schools. But all private schools have weightlifting all day and even many public schools also. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujo Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 True but it is a lot to ask some kids not the most structured and driven to stay after school year around.You will always have a better weight program when you have a weightlifting class during school. 2005 2006 2007 proves that we had weightlifting 4th period and made 3 straight final fours. That just dosen't seem to be the emphasis right now at HHS. Your most dedicated and motivated kids with good parents that push them will do whatever is asked of them by the coaches. But lets face the facts public schools sucess depends much more on how much you can get out of the very marginally motivated kids who come from bad home situations, not your most outstanding. It takes too many kids to have a good program. There are just not that many highly motivated kids in small single A high schools. But all private schools have weightlifting all day and even many public schools also. I agree 100 percent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uknoit2 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 True but it is a lot to ask some kids not the most structured and driven to stay after school year around.You will always have a better weight program when you have a weightlifting class during school. 2005 2006 2007 proves that we had weightlifting 4th period and made 3 straight final fours. That just dosen't seem to be the emphasis right now at HHS. Your most dedicated and motivated kids with good parents that push them will do whatever is asked of them by the coaches. But lets face the facts public schools sucess depends much more on how much you can get out of the very marginally motivated kids who come from bad home situations, not your most outstanding. It takes too many kids to have a good program. There are just not that many highly motivated kids in small single A high schools. But all private schools have weightlifting all day and even many public schools also. I want to think you and I have butted heads in the past...But no matter, this post is dead on! As far as the emphasis at HHS goes, weightlifting and motivating the average may not be on the minds of the "powers that be"...But its sure on the minds of the coaches...and can be seen by the long hours they have put in...They understand (as do we) how great the need is for all these kids to be hitting the weights HARD! I understand we had a very good showing at at the weight room yesterday....If these young men can look at each other and see the possibilities ahead and work towards a common goal, my oh my what a team we would have!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujo Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I want to think you and I have butted heads in the past...But no matter, this post is dead on! As far as the emphasis at HHS goes, weightlifting and motivating the average may not be on the minds of the "powers that be"...But its sure on the minds of the coaches...and can be seen by the long hours they have put in...They understand (as do we) how great the need is for all these kids to be hitting the weights HARD! I understand we had a very good showing at at the weight room yesterday....If these young men can look at each other and see the possibilities ahead and work towards a common goal, my oh my what a team we would have!!!! This sorta goes back to the public ,private thing, we need every single kid learning how to do hard things, tons of these kids do absolutely nothing. Strength training is tough, it teaches physical and mental toughness.It could also give kids a sense of pride. Learning how to work hard is a big thing. The one's who learn will be able to be productive citizens in life. They also need to quit passing all kids just because they show up. You need to earn grades and also earn to right to wear a uniform. School and sports should be teaching tools to make kids achievers in life. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pujo Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I want to think you and I have butted heads in the past...But no matter, this post is dead on! As far as the emphasis at HHS goes, weightlifting and motivating the average may not be on the minds of the "powers that be"...But its sure on the minds of the coaches...and can be seen by the long hours they have put in...They understand (as do we) how great the need is for all these kids to be hitting the weights HARD! I understand we had a very good showing at at the weight room yesterday....If these young men can look at each other and see the possibilities ahead and work towards a common goal, my oh my what a team we would have!!!! I also had issues with some of the things this feller said in the past, but I'm liking what he's saying now. Whoever it is knows quite a bit about Hampton . People just need to talk to the powers that be. If other schools can achieve this,so could we. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uknoit2 Posted March 19, 2014 Author Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 If he's alumni and has a girl playing now (possibly a boy that played 2005?), Im sure he wants what's best for HHS kids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THE KING Posted March 19, 2014 Report Share Posted March 19, 2014 I want to think you and I have butted heads in the past...But no matter, this post is dead on! As far as the emphasis at HHS goes, weightlifting and motivating the average may not be on the minds of the "powers that be"...But its sure on the minds of the coaches...and can be seen by the long hours they have put in...They understand (as do we) how great the need is for all these kids to be hitting the weights HARD! I understand we had a very good showing at at the weight room yesterday....If these young men can look at each other and see the possibilities ahead and work towards a common goal, my oh my what a team we would have!!!! Its expected from young men to think about these things, but more often than not, their minds are on other things. They don't look real far ahead. Now personally, I dreamed about the gold ball every night but only 1 or 2 shared my vision. The leadership is there. They just have to continually drive the point home and even then, not everyone will have the vision. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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