Lewis County look like a bunch of crybabies in Tennessean article

[QSouth89]

The quote about playing for 2nd place is exactly what the schools with CPA in it got. No one has a chance in that district as long as CPA continues to recruit. A split is needed immediately! I expect the TSSAA to table the proposals and drag this unfair situation on for another four years.

So what should teams in the same district as Fulton, Alcoa and Maryville do since they were essentially playing for second place the last few years or so. Can't compete so get rid of them. In a few years they'll be wanting to split open zoned schools, then all urban schools. It'll never end! Edited July 14, 2015 by QSouth89

[Bighurt]

So what should teams in the same district as Fulton, Alcoa and Maryville do since they were essentially playing for second place the last few years or so. Can't compete so get rid of them. In a few years they'll be wanting to split open zoned schools, then all urban schools. It'll never end!

"It'll never end!" BINGO!

 

By the way, I would disagree that Lewis County looks like a bunch of crybabies.

You have to look at the situation from their perspective. I can understand their frustration.

Edited July 15, 2015 by Bighurt

[RonMexico3]

Looks like the Lewis County punk lost his vote.  I'm sure he'll find someway to claim that the TSSAA "is not fair" to the triving metropolis of Honewald.

[RonMexico3]

"It'll never end!" BINGO!

 

By the way, I would disagree that Lewis County looks like a bunch of crybabies.

You have to look at the situation from their perspective. I can understand their frustration.

First, they are open zone so they can get players from the exact same streets as private schools. 

Second, Yes they do look like crybabies.....have the teams who have had to play Maryville gone to the TSSAA and begged to have their team moved out of district so they don't have to "play for second in the district"?  Only LC has done this....shame on them and LC for having this joker represent them.

[QSouth89]

I was shocked that the split didn't pass, what's the next step? Or did they even vote on the other options?

[Indian]

No other vote apparently other than adding private school reps.

[RonMexico3]

No other vote apparently other than adding private school reps.

They also voted to allow priavtes to be represented on the board

[bluedevilpride2012]

Looks like the Lewis County punk lost his vote.

You're critical of a school's representative and that's fine but hiding on a message board behind a screen name and calling him "a punk" is simply cowardly.

[Gambler]

The TSSAA will now look at an urban and rural classification proposal. I would be careful in talking about advantage in this argument. A urban or city school will always have some advantages over a rural school simply based on population density. Which is why they are looking at dividing up based on that. However one thing no one talks about is for the D1 privates the challenge that exists in an urban area. In a rural school most of the time you are not going to have to worry about losing your players to a bigger private school or bigger public school. If you don't think public schools in urban areas aren't atrracting athletes or recruiting your crazy. This is what high school athletics has moved towards like it or not it is what it is.

Magnet schools in urban areas can select their students and kids go for free. Many in Nashville are always powers in basketball. Open zone schools need I say more. Also as middle tennessee grows and more schools are built the talent gets diluted. Look what happened to Riverdale when Ruth co. Exploded. Used to Franklin and Brentwood were it in will co and now schools are popping up everywhere. Milan or a closed zone school gets to keep their kids and develop them in a feeder system. Those are some advantages and disadvantages.

What I look at is the level of competitiveness no school is just completely dominating everyone week in and week out. Also so many people base their opinions on this year or recent history. A few years ago CPA was an average football program. Goodpasture a few years ago was competing for state titles recently they have struggled. Lipscomb has remained consistent but hasn't competed for a state title in football in a few years. NCS used to be a small program and they are growing but still haven't won a title. Hillsboro the most successful school in metro has been essentially open zone.

 

Some schools are just going to be good at certain sports based on their community, tradition, or coaching. Regardless of what class. Coaching and admin support is a big part of success and like it or not some schools don't have the support they need to compete and win. It's not the private or open Zoned schools keeping them from being successful. I think the TSSAA will do a great job of leveling the playing field and hopefully this argument will die.

 

Lastly TN has always had quality teams winning championships and this is a credit to both public and privates alike. Splitting the teams would diminish that reputation.

[MSURacer]

The TSSAA will now look at an urban and rural classification proposal. I would be careful in talking about advantage in this argument. A urban or city school will always have some advantages over a rural school simply based on population density. Which is why they are looking at dividing up based on that. However one thing no one talks about is for the D1 privates the challenge that exists in an urban area. In a rural school most of the time you are not going to have to worry about losing your players to a bigger private school or bigger public school. If you don't think public schools in urban areas aren't atrracting athletes or recruiting your crazy. This is what high school athletics has moved towards like it or not it is what it is.

Magnet schools in urban areas can select their students and kids go for free. Many in Nashville are always powers in basketball. Open zone schools need I say more. Also as middle tennessee grows and more schools are built the talent gets diluted. Look what happened to Riverdale when Ruth co. Exploded. Used to Franklin and Brentwood were it in will co and now schools are popping up everywhere. Milan or a closed zone school gets to keep their kids and develop them in a feeder system. Those are some advantages and disadvantages.

What I look at is the level of competitiveness no school is just completely dominating everyone week in and week out. Also so many people base their opinions on this year or recent history. A few years ago CPA was an average football program. Goodpasture a few years ago was competing for state titles recently they have struggled. Lipscomb has remained consistent but hasn't competed for a state title in football in a few years. NCS used to be a small program and they are growing but still haven't won a title. Hillsboro the most successful school in metro has been essentially open zone.

 

Some schools are just going to be good at certain sports based on their community, tradition, or coaching. Regardless of what class. Coaching and admin support is a big part of success and like it or not some schools don't have the support they need to compete and win. It's not the private or open Zoned schools keeping them from being successful. I think the TSSAA will do a great job of leveling the playing field and hopefully this argument will die.

 

Lastly TN has always had quality teams winning championships and this is a credit to both public and privates alike. Splitting the teams would diminish that reputation.

 

Henry County is rural, yet we've been one of the more successful programs in the state for nearly a decade now. Though we may not have the population density of a large urban area, our "zone" does cover an area of 32,000 people, and we do have advantages that you allude to in your post, i.e. continuity, strong development/feeder programs, good coaching, county-wide fan support, and the fact that we aren't losing any students to private schools. If you look back at some of the great runs made by large rural schools in the past (Lincoln County, Dickson County, Jefferson County during the 80's, etc.), I'd imagine you would find they all had many of those same advantages.

 

Further, if this "urban/rural" classification split did occur, where would that leave a school like us? I mean good lord, we depend on schools from Clarksville, Memphis, and Greater Nashville just to fill our schedule and to have a region to play in. We are the only RURAL school OF OUR SIZE within a very large distance. The closest one is our geographically natural rival Dickson County. Would they make exceptions for schools like us? Or would we just be up the proverbial creek without a paddle?     

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

Henry County is rural, yet we've been one of the more successful programs in the state for nearly a decade now. Though we may not have the population density of a large urban area, our "zone" does cover an area of 32,000 people, and we do have advantages that you allude to in your post, i.e. continuity, strong development/feeder programs, good coaching, county-wide fan support, and the fact that we aren't losing any students to private schools. If you look back at some of the great runs made by large rural schools in the past (Lincoln County, Dickson County, Jefferson County during the 80's, etc.), I'd imagine you would find they all had many of those same advantages.

 

Further, if this "urban/rural" classification split did occur, where would that leave a school like us? I mean good lord, we depend on schools from Clarksville, Memphis, and Greater Nashville just to fill our schedule and to have a region to play in. We are the only RURAL school OF OUR SIZE within a very large distance. The closest one is our geographically natural rival Dickson County. Would they make exceptions for schools like us? Or would we just be up the proverbial creek without a paddle?

We'll play ya.

[MSURacer]

We'll play ya.

Henry County-Milan should already be an annual game anyway. It completely baffles me as to why it isn't lol