sackmaster99 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 No it doesn't. At least it doesn't have to. Good point Racer. Henry Co. demonstrates that point better than any other. Upon further examination, I would like to rephrase my statement. It will take a long time to change the culture of losing at Lebanon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hubbard Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 He is 62 years old and can't relate to young kids anymore. They are losing kids in the program. What on earth is Medley's "job" anyhow? I never said Harp doesn't deserve respect...he has certainly earned it as a coach...he just doesn't need to be coaching at Lebanon. I disagree with your statement that Lebanon will never be any good...that is a defeatist attitude and is totally wrong but you know that may be a big part of the problem. Do you really think the age of the coach is the issue? I guess its time for Quarrels and Rankin to retire as well. But wait . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I don't think it would take long to turn around Lebanon. Call me crazy or stupid or whatever but I think if the right coach came in and got the kids excited in could be done in as little as a year. A lot would have to go right and you would have to get a few leaders to buy in. One decent season and others would become interested. One really good year and the culture would change. Maintaining the new culture would be the real challenge imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraigp23 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 I don't think it would take long to turn around Lebanon. Call me crazy or stupid or whatever but I think if the right coach came in and got the kids excited in could be done in as little as a year. A lot would have to go right and you would have to get a few leaders to buy in. One decent season and others would become interested. One really good year and the culture would change. Maintaining the new culture would be the real challenge imo. Work if a job at Lebanon or WC opened would you apply? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 JCraig - I would apply to both. I am much like you once were and may still be......hungry. I think both jobs would be a good fit for me and I think I would be a good fit for both jobs. I think I could really do good things with both programs. Just need that chance, a chance I am not getting where I am. On a side not Mr. JCraig - I am sure you don't remember but a long time ago I told you on here that if you needed help I would be willing. You were hungry back then. Are you still and would you apply? Don't let your last stop ruin your appetite for leading a program. I knew all along you were in a bad situation and one of these two you mentioned could be a nice place. Where you are now could be a nice place for you too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcraigp23 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 (edited) I will always be hungry. I am happy where I am and I believe my last job made me a lot better coach dealing with what we delt with during my stint. If you ever need anything you know where to find me. As far as future jobs...We will just have to see. That being said I will be a HC again I'm sure. Edited October 30, 2015 by jcraigp23 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eers Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 JCraig - I would apply to both. I am much like you once were and may still be......hungry. I think both jobs would be a good fit for me and I think I would be a good fit for both jobs. I think I could really do good things with both programs. Just need that chance, a chance I am not getting where I am. On a side not Mr. JCraig - I am sure you don't remember but a long time ago I told you on here that if you needed help I would be willing. You were hungry back then. Are you still and would you apply? Don't let your last stop ruin your appetite for leading a program. I knew all along you were in a bad situation and one of these two you mentioned could be a nice place. Where you are now could be a nice place for you too. Ok... Makes me wonder, who are you two?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rade Butcher Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Ok... Makes me wonder, who are you two?? Obviously 2 former head coaches who were fired and now want a 2nd chance. Now let's look at KY hs coaches who were at Lebanon. Jim Meyer in the late 60's or early 70's was 2-18 and was run out on a rail...maybe as much for rumored brutality and running off every black athlete in the school than his coaching. Fred Gibson was 0-10 in the late 70's. He was run out due to incompetence more than anything else. Ironically both went back to KY and won state titles. Meyer even became an assistant for the Dallas Cowboys and is mentioned in Hollywood Henderson's book as one crazy sucker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fb247 Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Ok... Makes me wonder, who are you two?? One is an assistant at East Nashville in Metro. The other is former head coach at CR in Metro. Neither would be a good choice for any job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 JCraig glad to hear the hunger is still there. I am always willing to help in any way that I can. Good luck tonight. Eers I'm not hard to figure out. I don't hide who I am. Rade you don't know me. I have never been fired from anywhere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
workinprogress Posted October 30, 2015 Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Wow fb247 you act as if you know me and as if you know how I teach/coach. You have a right to your opinion but I'm confident your opinion is a minority opinion. I would be a great choice for a lot of schools in my opinion. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rade Butcher Posted October 30, 2015 Author Report Share Posted October 30, 2015 Wow fb247 you act as if you know me and as if you know how I teach/coach. You have a right to your opinion but I'm confident your opinion is a minority opinion. I would be a great choice for a lot of schools in my opinion. I never met a coach that didn't think they would be a great fit for any school...in their opinion of course. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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