New Division II Classification Thoughts - 3 Classes

[FootballFan51]

Chatt Christian announced a few months back that they were going, and as of today Boyd Buchanan and Chattanooga Grace are going too. I don't think Notre Dame has made their announcement yet but I don't think it will take too long.

Notre Dame will definitely be going. The schools that were 'living in the gray' must go because they have been doing the things (work study, whatever you want to call it, etc.) that public school administrators have been rightly screaming about.

The private schools that are still thinking about it generally are the ones that have not been doing things that give them an advantage over the public schools.

Edited July 18, 2016 by FootballFan51

[TnTxn]

Have heard that an option out there for DII is to have a "Super 12" division of the 12 largest private schools, then divide the remaining schools by size.  IF that were true, how would it look? Well, according to TSSAA numbers, it would look something like this if all schools opted to go D2:

 

AAA (Super 12)

 

Baylor

Brentwood

Briarcrest

Christian Brothers

Father Ryan

Knox Catholic

Knox Webb

Lipscomb

MBA

McCallie

PJP II

St Benedict

 

You may be right on on Super Conference - nothing would surprise me.  There are currently only 11 teams in D2-AA - those you list above less Knox Catholic, Knox Webb and Lipscomb but adding Ensworth (plays up) and MUS (all-male).  Here are the enrollment figures currently (doubling for all-male) for the largest 30 privates (I may have missed something):

 

1 Christian Bros (Mem) (867)   1734

2 McCallie (Male) (666)    1332

3 MBA (Male) (510)    1020

4 Father Ryan    958

5 MUS (Male) (446)    892

6 St. Benedict    891

7 Baylor    697

8 Knox Catholic*    650

9 PJP II    575

10 Briarcrest    568

11 Lipscomb*    509

12 Brentwood Academy    489

13 Webb (Knoxville)    471

14 Ensworth    462

15 CCS    439

16 CAK*    426

t-17 CPA*    419

t-17 St. George    419

19 Notre Dame*    417

20 Evangelical Christian*    384

21 Harding    376

22 USJ       344

23 Lausanne    337

24 BGA      326

25 First Assembly     316

26 Northpoint    304

27 Grace Christian*    303

28 Goodpasture*    301

29 Silverdale*    295

30 Hutchison    281

31 Boyd*      271

32 Franklin Rd Acad    248

 

 

Ensworth will likely want to continue to play up.  Knox Catholic is #8 in enrollment among the privates, so they'll be tapped to play in the large division.  So, how likely would it be for the TSSAA to have only 1 Knoxville team in this division?  

 

It would seem to make more sense to have at least 16 teams in the largest division, so there could be 3 Knoxville teams and 3 Chattanooga teams.  Those 6 teams could be one region, the 6 Middle TN teams could be a region, and the 4 West TN teams could remain a region.

 

I know nothing.....  Just putting it out there.

Edited July 18, 2016 by TnTxn

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

You may be right on on Super Conference - nothing would surprise me. There are currently only 11 teams in D2-AA - those you list above less Knox Catholic, Knox Webb and Lipscomb but adding Ensworth (plays up) and MUS (all-male). Here are the enrollment figures currently (doubling for all-male) for the largest 30 privates (I may have missed something):

 

 

1 Christian Bros (Mem) (867) 1734

2 McCallie (Male) (666) 1332

3 MBA (Male) (510) 1020

4 Father Ryan 958

5 MUS (Male) (446) 892

6 St. Benedict 891

7 Baylor 697

8 Knox Catholic* 650

9 PJP II 575

10 Briarcrest 568

11 Lipscomb* 509

12 Brentwood Academy 489

13 Webb (Knoxville) 471

14 Ensworth 462

15 CCS 439

16 CAK* 426

t-17 CPA* 419

t-17 St. George 419

19 Notre Dame* 417

20 Evangelical Christian* 384

21 Harding 376

22 USJ 344

23 Lausanne 337

24 BGA 326

25 First Assembly 316

26 Northpoint 304

27 Grace Christian* 303

28 Goodpasture* 301

29 Silverdale* 295

30 Hutchison 281

31 Boyd* 271

32 Franklin Rd Acad 248

 

 

Ensworth will likely want to continue to play up. Knox Catholic is #8 in enrollment among the privates, so they'll be tapped to play in the large division. So, how likely would it be for the TSSAA to have only 1 Knoxville team in this division?

 

It would seem to make more sense to have at least 16 teams in the largest division, so there could be 3 Knoxville teams and 3 Chattanooga teams. Those 6 teams could be one region, the 6 Middle TN teams could be a region, and the 4 West TN teams could remain a region.

 

I know nothing..... Just putting it out there.

Isn't Hutchison an all girls school??

 

Also where does Jackson Christian, Trinity Christian and Fayette Academy fit in enrollment wise???

[TnTxn]

Isn't Hutchison an all girls school??

 

Also where does Jackson Christian, Trinity Christian and Fayette Academy fit in enrollment wise???

 

I combined a couple of spreadsheets that are for different things, so if including one all-girls school was my only mistake, I'll be shocked.  Ha.  Here is the complete list that I have.  I was initially concentrating on the larger schools, so I'm not sure I even included every private school.  Enrollment figures are from TSSAA website (http://tssaa.org/tssaa-enrollment-figures-for-2015-16-2016-17-classification/).  An asterisk indicates they are currently in Div. 1. 

 

1 Christian Bros (Mem) (867)   1734

2 McCallie (Male) (666)   1332

3 MBA (Male) (510)   1020

4 Father Ryan     958

5 MUS (Male) (446)    892

6 St. Benedict    891

7 Baylor    697

8 Knox Catholic*    650

9 PJP II    575

10 Briarcrest     568

11 Lipscomb*    509

12 Brentwood Academy    489

13 Webb (Knoxville)    471

14 Ensworth    462

15 CCS        439

16 CAK*      426

t-17 CPA*     419

t-17 St. George   419

19 Notre Dame*    417

20 Evangelical Christian*    384

21 Harding     376

22 USJ       344

23 Lausanne    337

24 BGA       326

25 First Assembly     316

26 Northpoint     304

27 Grace Christian*    303

28 Goodpasture*    301

29 Silverdale*    295

30 Boyd*       271

31 Franklin Rd Acad    248

32 Trinity*    245

33 JCS*     239

34 Davidson    233

35 Friendship Christian    231

36 DCA     218

37 MTCS*    214

38 Fayette Academy    212

39 Columbia Academy*    211

40 Tipton Rosemark    199

41 Clarksville Academy*    194

42 Nashville Christian* 192

43 Ezell-Harding    183

44 St Andrews    168

45 Grace Baptist*   160

46 Memphis Cath    154

47 MJCA    143

48 Kings Academy    140

49 Zion   133

50 Rossville    127

51 Concord Christian    106

 

Couldn't find info on Grace Christian Franklin or TN Christian.  Am I missing any others?

[silverpie]

If by "TN Christian" you mean the one in Cleveland, they are not TSSAA members at this time. Grace Christian of Franklin is at 140. Also, strike Columbia Academy, who have declared D-1 status.

[silverpie]

double, please delete

Edited July 26, 2016 by silverpie

[Booger]

could we possibly starty another couple threads on the subject matter

 

and Booger nose BPM is gonna b missing someones presence over onb those PUB channels

 

Booger justt sayin

[HCHSladyPats]

Mercy, 51 schools, 3 classes,  that is more like region numbers for public schools.  LOL   By the numbers, that would be like having 21 public school state championships.   (figuring 17 teams per class).  

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

could we possibly starty another couple threads on the subject matter

 

and Booger nose BPM is gonna b missing someones presence over onb those PUB channels

 

Booger justt sayin

You will still have to come around on the other threads. The Goons won't know how to act without you!!😀

[Booger]

You will still have to come around on the other threads. The Goons won't know how to act without you!!

 

Booger got one more shot at bringin them Goons down to Chattanooga and watchin them tuck their tails in their Victoria Specials

 

Booger just sayin 

[ReitzFan]

D2 Class A   265 and under

               AA  266-530

             AAA 530 +

 

You have the option of playing up.