Mocs Wrestling Disappoints

[Mason422]

Here is one problem I think UTC has.  On June 15th of last year the recruiting process opened up for my son.  He had over 30 Division 1 schools call him on the first day, in the first 3 months on the recruiting process he had 8-9 home visits and 4 more scheduled before he committed to VT. I certainly am not saying this to brag about my boy but to say that UTC wasn’t in the mix.  One of the coaches text Hunter once from UTC and that was it. No phone calls, no Offical visit request, just silence. At the time Hunter was ranked #10 for the class of 2023. A top recruit in my opinion but UTC didn’t make any effort to recruit him.  
 

I said all of that to say this.  I don’t believe that UTC goes after the top recruits. I believe they get about 5 scholarships so they don’t have a lot of money to throw around, so they just aim a little lower. But dang you have to try to get the in state studs. 
 

I am extremely grateful that TN has a D1 program and I like the coaches a lot just think they need to recruit a little more aggressively. 

[Appvol]

23 minutes ago, Mason422 said:

Here is one problem I think UTC has.  On June 15th of last year the recruiting process opened up for my son.  He had over 30 Division 1 schools call him on the first day, in the first 3 months on the recruiting process he had 8-9 home visits and 4 more scheduled before he committed to VT. I certainly am not saying this to brag about my boy but to say that UTC wasn’t in the mix.  One of the coaches text Hunter once from UTC and that was it. No phone calls, no Offical visit request, just silence. At the time Hunter was ranked #10 for the class of 2023. A top recruit in my opinion but UTC didn’t make any effort to recruit him.  
 

I said all of that to say this.  I don’t believe that UTC goes after the top recruits. I believe they get about 5 scholarships so they don’t have a lot of money to throw around, so they just aim a little lower. But dang you have to try to get the in state studs. 
 

I am extremely grateful that TN has a D1 program and I like the coaches a lot just think they need to recruit a little more aggressively. 

I know the App St coach wrestled with his brother. I think App St gets 6.5. It’s hard to go after the top recruits. You can’t put all your money into a few kids. I have been telling his brother that there are some really good kids in TN close to App St. App St coach is a great coach and person.

Edited March 25, 2022 by Appvol

[cbg]

I going to weigh in on the Phillip Simpson debate.  If UTC were ever fortunate enough to convince Philip Simpson to become the head wrestling coach for the Mocs it would be a "MAJOR" pickup for both UTC and the entire state of Tennessee.  Philip not only has the wrestling skills and knowledge for folkstyle wrestling but let's not forget that he competed for the WCAP program and was a Pan American champion.  With regards to how he would handle the administrative duties, if I am correct he was assigned to be the right hand man for General David Petraeus during the war.  That 24/7 job alone tells you that he is a get it done type of man.  While everything that I have told you up to this point is great the best part is that Philip is truly a family man with a great personality.  You must have someone with an outgoing personality on the staff if you are ever going to recruit the very best athletes.  Now with all of this said "NO ONE" is going to be successful if they don't have the full allotment of 9.9 scholarships at their disposal.  The university is going to have to show that they are fully committed to having a successful program and up until this point all that they have done is provide lip service.  

Edited March 25, 2022 by cbg

[Mason422]

3 minutes ago, Appvol said:

I know the App St coach wrestled with his brother. I think App St gets 6.5. It’s hard to go after the top recruits. You can’t put all your money into a few kids. I have been telling his brother that there are some really good kids in TN close to App St. App St coach is a great coach and person.

App state is another that never reached out.  Really baffles me but you will never get a top recruit if you don’t go after them. Heck from my military service Hunter would go to UTC for free without a scholarship.  If they tried really hard to get some of these guys you never know you might land a few. 
 

what is 100% true. If you don’t try you will never get them. 

[oceansize42]

I have to admit I wondered if either UTC or App State went after Hunter aggressively.  I don't have to wonder anymore.

Do you know if they tried for Kodiak?

On another note I really enjoyed UTC posting their matches up on youtube.  I think Palmer could get AA if stays hungry. While I know the championships didn't go the way he wanted he wrestled fantastic over the course of the year.

[Ummmno]

27 minutes ago, Mason422 said:

App state is another that never reached out.  Really baffles me but you will never get a top recruit if you don’t go after them. Heck from my military service Hunter would go to UTC for free without a scholarship.  If they tried really hard to get some of these guys you never know you might land a few. 
 

what is 100% true. If you don’t try you will never get them. 

I gotta think the reasoning is a "there's no way we could ever land someone like Hunter" situation so they just don't even try. '

 

Even IF there was no way they could land him...you still gotta try. And like you said, had they actually found a way to get him to UTC they wouldnt have even had to use a scholarship on him. SMH. Dropped the ball on that one. 

Edited March 25, 2022 by Ummmno

[Mason422]

11 minutes ago, oceansize42 said:

I have to admit I wondered if either UTC or App State went after Hunter aggressively.  I don't have to wonder anymore.

Do you know if they tried for Kodiak?

On another note I really enjoyed UTC posting their matches up on youtube.  I think Palmer could get AA if stays hungry. While I know the championships didn't go the way he wanted he wrestled fantastic over the course of the year.

They never went after Kodiak either. 

[cbg]

43 minutes ago, Mason422 said:

They never went after Kodiak either. 

Sad!  When you don't try to recruit the top talent in your home state you have a major problem.  Yes, if the kid & family tell you not to recruit them I understand how you would back off.  Recruiting is a 24/7 job and if your are not making phone calls, texting, hosting camps, attending high school matches, sending emails, ect... you will not be successful.

[WrestlingGod]

19 minutes ago, cbg said:

Sad!  When you don't try to recruit the top talent in your home state you have a major problem.  Yes, if the kid & family tell you not to recruit them I understand how you would back off.  Recruiting is a 24/7 job and if your are not making phone calls, texting, hosting camps, attending high school matches, sending emails, ect... you will not be successful.

Someone once told me that, "recruiting is like trying to get laid in the club. The more b****** you spit to, the greater the probability".

 

Wise man. 

[RMC]

Maybe drag that Cal Poly coach back.....

[bamajoe]

How about their successes ? Now that Rocky Jordan is transferring to UTC !

[bamajoe]

Also how about back to back years having SoCon freshman wrestler of the year !