When does basketball practice start?

[fanonly]

According to TSSAA, basketball teams, by rule, can be having weight training/conditioning and open facilities during this time...until Oct. 27

 

For those of you who don't know what those are....here are the definitions directly from TSSAA.

 

Weight Training / Conditioning ??“ Must be a generic type program that would be beneficial to all students and not sport specific. Exception: In baseball and girls softball, players may throw to condition arms.

 

Open Facilities ??“ Schools may use their facilities for students in their building prior to or at the conclusion of the school day. Coaches may serve in a supervisory capacity only. There is no instruction, no teaching, no coaching, etc. Coaches may not participate or play in any manner. It is a free play type atmosphere.

 

Therefore, if a school is having "pick up games" during a school period or block..they are in violation. Why are they in violation? Because they are having OPEN FACILITIES during the school day, which is not "prior to or at the conclusion of the school day"

 

There are many schools in this state that have a period of the day for basketball and football, and some...all sports. If this was legal, and done in every school, I would be fine with it. But as we all know, it is not, and the school who are doing this are benefiting from it.

 

Below is the link to the 2008-09 handbook. Go to pg.21 for the definitions and pg.25 for basketball calender.

 

http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/handbook.pdf

 

So Monday (October27th), week of November 1 is the first day they can practice....am I reading that right ?

 

 

2008-09 TSSAA Handbook

Basketball (Boys and Girls)

Monday, week of August 1 until

Monday, last full week of August....................................................DEAD PERIOD

Monday, last full week of August, until

Monday, week of November 1.......................................................Weight training/conditioning/open facilities permitted.

No practice.

Monday, week of November 1.......................................................First Practice Date. Must practice 3 days before preseason

scrimmages. Maximum of 4 preseason scrimmages or 2 preseason scrimmage dates, or 1 date and 2 scrimmages.

Monday, 16 weeks prior to Boys State Bk Tournament.................Date of First Contest. Eligibility and schedule must be filed

online.

Maximum number of regular season contests...............................24 Games. Maximum number of tournaments is 2 with each

tournament counting as 2 games.

End of season until completion

of 3 weeks (21 consecutive days)..................................................DEAD PERIOD

End of Dead Period until end of school..........................................Weight training/conditioning/open facilities permitted.

No practice (Exception: 5 Days of off-season practice within a 10 consecutive school day period).

End of school until summer Dead Period.......................................15 days of practice, 10 of which may involve practice

with another school(s).

Week preceding July 4 and week of July 4....................................SUMMER DEAD PERIOD

End of Summer Dead Period until Monday, week of August 1.......Weight training/conditioning permitted.

No open facilities. No practice.

[bigchief]

Basketball and wrestling may begin practice at 12:00 A.M. on Monday October 27th.

These schools who are "practicing during the school day are more than likely violating a state mandate that does not allow schools to give class credit for practicing during the school day. Many block scheduled schools are having P.E. during the 1st nine weeks and then calling it "study hall" during the 2nd and 3rd nine weeks before going back to P. E. for the 4th nine weeks in order to avoid violating this. I can promise you that no school wants the state to come in and evaluate their curriculum, especially in P.E. A lot of feelings would get hurt and a lot of newspapers would go unread.

 

Also, as far as "open facilities" are concerned, a coach can and SHOULD be there. The kids must have adult supervision or you get into some ugly liability issues. One high ankle sprain without anyone there to provide aid and someone is going to lose their job.

[ChrisMullins]

You say that they are violating a State Mandate that has to do with education...did not know about that, good info.

 

What I want to know is are they violating the TSSAA rules by playing pick-up games during their class time before Oct.27th? My interpretation says they definitely are.

[westtnman]

Well, firstly, Gibson Co. is on block scheduling. That means girls basketball is first block (first thing in the morning!). Our boys normally practice 4th block and after school during practice dates. As for the accusation made by VolunteerGeneral, it is bogus. Our girls may have been wearing practice jerseys and shorts but that does not mean they were having practice. I know they play pick-up games during the off-season as they did that while I was attending school at GC. I talked to a very credible source that is mighty close to the program about what was said on here and I was told that they were pickup games. Yes, Kevin McMillan might've been in the gym watching them or standing there but that doesn't mean he's out there with them coaching. Just to clear that up. VolunteerGeneral, are you someone that is working on the construction out at GC?

 

 

 

Block scheduling? So 25% of day is spent "not practicing basketball" while the coach is in the gym "not coaching"

Guess this is what was intended when block scheduling was implemented to give more in class time?

[ChrisMullins]

Coach Gat, how do you feel about the following?

 

According to TSSAA, basketball teams, by rule, can be having weight training/conditioning and open facilities during this time...until Oct. 27

 

For those of you who don't know what those are....here are the definitions directly from TSSAA.

 

Weight Training / Conditioning ??“ Must be a generic type program that would be beneficial to all students and not sport specific. Exception: In baseball and girls softball, players may throw to condition arms.

 

Open Facilities ??“ Schools may use their facilities for students in their building prior to or at the conclusion of the school day. Coaches may serve in a supervisory capacity only. There is no instruction, no teaching, no coaching, etc. Coaches may not participate or play in any manner. It is a free play type atmosphere.

 

Therefore, if a school is having "pick up games" during a school period or block..they are in violation. Why are they in violation? Because they are having OPEN FACILITIES during the school day, which is not "prior to or at the conclusion of the school day"

 

There are many schools in this state that have a period of the day for basketball and football, and some...all sports. If this was legal, and done in every school, I would be fine with it. But as we all know, it is not, and the school who are doing this are benefiting from it.

 

Below is the link to the 2008-09 handbook. Go to pg.21 for the definitions and pg.25 for basketball calender.

 

http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/handbook.pdf

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[mrbigster]

wow

 

 

 

I saw that The T.S.S.A.A. handed down it's penalty for Lake Co and Central..Central proposed that their coach be suspended for 1 game and lose 20 percent of his coaching allotment..Lake Co saw that the T.S.S.A.A. accepted Central's proposal so Lake Co asked for a 4 game suspension for Coach Whitby instead of penalizing the Falcon team..It was also accepted..So now Lake Co will be allowed to have preseason scrimmages and play in the Dyersburg jamboree..Coach Whitby will not be allowed o coach in the jamboree at Dyersburg or the Hall of Fame game against Brighton at Lake Co and will miss the next three games against Gleason,South Fulton and Bradford..

[VolunteerGeneral]

Coach Gat, how do you feel about the following?

 

According to TSSAA, basketball teams, by rule, can be having weight training/conditioning and open facilities during this time...until Oct. 27

 

For those of you who don't know what those are....here are the definitions directly from TSSAA.

 

Weight Training / Conditioning ??“ Must be a generic type program that would be beneficial to all students and not sport specific. Exception: In baseball and girls softball, players may throw to condition arms.

 

Open Facilities ??“ Schools may use their facilities for students in their building prior to or at the conclusion of the school day. Coaches may serve in a supervisory capacity only. There is no instruction, no teaching, no coaching, etc. Coaches may not participate or play in any manner. It is a free play type atmosphere.

 

Therefore, if a school is having "pick up games" during a school period or block..they are in violation. Why are they in violation? Because they are having OPEN FACILITIES during the school day, which is not "prior to or at the conclusion of the school day"

 

There are many schools in this state that have a period of the day for basketball and football, and some...all sports. If this was legal, and done in every school, I would be fine with it. But as we all know, it is not, and the school who are doing this are benefiting from it.

 

Below is the link to the 2008-09 handbook. Go to pg.21 for the definitions and pg.25 for basketball calender.

 

http://www.tssaa.org/Handbook/handbook.pdf

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This confuses me more. GC was definitely using their facilities DURING the school day for "pick up" games. The coach was there observing but not coaching. Can the fact that this is a class supersede the rule?

[timtebo]

This is really starting to get ridiculous...people need to get facts straight before they start stirring. Chris Mullins, if you had read down further you would have seen:

 

Practice during the school day: all athletic practice during the regular hours of any school day shall conform to the same rules and regulations as corresponding athletic participation outside the school day.

 

Which translates into yes, you can play pick up games during the school day.

[westtnman]

This is really starting to get ridiculous...people need to get facts straight before they start stirring. Chris Mullins, if you had read down further you would have seen:

 

Practice during the school day: all athletic practice during the regular hours of any school day shall conform to the same rules and regulations as corresponding athletic participation outside the school day.

 

Which translates into yes, you can play pick up games during the school day.

 

 

 

When do you do Math, English, Social Studies, History, and Foreign Languages?

[wingman10]

This is a long thread.

[GCPioneer]

When do you do Math, English, Social Studies, History, and Foreign Languages?

 

 

In any of your other 3 blocks throughout the semester. 1st block - basketball, 2nd block - English, 3rd block - History, 4th Block - Social Studies (that is only 1 semester of classes)....You're obviously clueless on how block scheduling works. I also might add that GC does have classes such as weightlifting as well as a block for football (4th block). Don't look too far into things... GC is abiding by the rules and Coach McMillan knows what he's doing. You people are trying to pick at small things that your school doesn't have. I'm sorry that Gibson Co. has a block for basketball and a block for football as well as baseball.

[timtebo]

When do you do Math, English, Social Studies, History, and Foreign Languages?

 

 

 

 

Westtnman, you have obviously been under a rock....sports have been a part of the school day in ALOT of schools for at least the past 20 years!