Need An Explanation from the TSSAA!

[sportsguy22]

Just now, guthook said:

You need an explanation?  They explained this before we started playing.  That sucks, but they already explained it.

Ok since they explained it and you understand it...explain it to me. Are there COVID wins and COVID losses or do the losses not count? Did they explain whether region games should take precedent in re-scheduling?

[fb247]

2 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Yeah definitely! I’ve noticed that. I think the one mistake the TSSAA made was not making the rule that all region games take precedent over non-region games. I think once things starting getting crazy they just backed out altogether. In other words, in many, many cases we have teams playing non-region games or taking “COVID byes” when they could have played region games instead. 

Yes, I saw that happen more than once.

[Rerun92]

18 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Ok since they explained it and you understand it...explain it to me. Are there COVID wins and COVID losses or do the losses not count? Did they explain whether region games should take precedent in re-scheduling?

"The Board of Control decided that if a team is unable to play due to a COVID-19 outbreak, then any teams they were they were scheduled to play would get a forfeit victory. However, the team that could not play would not have any wins or losses registered on its schedule."

 

And no, they didn't say that region games should take precedent because then everyone would be rescheduling considerably more.  These were in the guidelines in July btw...

[FBfan26]

45 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Agree with that for sure, which is why some smart re-scheduling would make common sense in this one particular year.

Right we just got kicked by independence for a early season region game against Brentwood. We knew it was coming and agreed and now we heading to chatt.

Edited October 17, 2020 by FBfan26

[sportsguy22]

12 minutes ago, guthook said:

"The Board of Control decided that if a team is unable to play due to a COVID-19 outbreak, then any teams they were they were scheduled to play would get a forfeit victory. However, the team that could not play would not have any wins or losses registered on its schedule."

 

And no, they didn't say that region games should take precedent because then everyone would be rescheduling considerably more.  These were in the guidelines in July btw...

Did they explain the metro situation? Teams missing games because they were not allowed to play, but were healthy and willing? 

[Rerun92]

7 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Did they explain the metro situation? Teams missing games because they were not allowed to play, but were healthy and willing? 

It would be cool if you would do your own research instead of just complaining.  But those games were vacated due to COVID.  The district acts on behalf of the school.  The post-season rules are under football regulations.  The specific verbage around COVID forfeits is below under one of the FAQ's that are listed in August but initially decided in late July.

 

Cancellation of Contests due to COVID 19 Games cancelled due to COVID 19 shall be treated as follows: Football - TSSAA Regulations require teams to play a district/region schedule for playoff purposes. Regular season standings and the building of postseason brackets are done by TSSAA staff which creates the need for consistency on how cancellations are handled. Therefore, the following procedures are in place when a team is unable to play due to a COVID 19 outbreak or school system mandate.

 

1. Region Game- The game will go on record as a no contest for the school that is unable to play due to the outbreak or school system mandate. The school that could have played will receive a region win and overall win in the standings if the school can not replace the game with a new opponent on the same week it was originally scheduled to occur. If the school that could have played does replace the game with another opponent on the same week it was originally scheduled to occur, the school receives a Region win in the standings and the outcome of the game will be used in the overall standings.

 

2. Non Region Game- The game will go on record as a no contest for the school that is unable to play due to the outbreak or school system mandate. The school that could have played will receive a win in the overall standings if the game is not replaced. If the school that could play does replace the game with another opponent, the outcome of the game will be used in the overall standings.

Edited October 17, 2020 by guthook

[GREENWAVE84EG]

If a region game is not played and it is virus related, it counts as a region win for the team that could play, and a no contest for the team that couldn't.  The TSSAA will seed accordingly, it's as simple as that.  Fair is out the window this year.  As far as trying to reschedule region games, most if not all coaches have worked their tails off to ensure their teams get ten games, and that makes it difficult or impossible to reschedule region games later.

[sportsguy22]

8 minutes ago, guthook said:

It would be cool if you would do your own research instead of just complaining.  But those games were vacated due to COVID.  The district acts on behalf of the school.  The post-season rules are under football regulations.  The specific verbage around COVID forfeits is below under one of the FAQ's that are listed in August but initially decided in late July.

 

Cancellation of Contests due to COVID 19 Games cancelled due to COVID 19 shall be treated as follows: Football - TSSAA Regulations require teams to play a district/region schedule for playoff purposes. Regular season standings and the building of postseason brackets are done by TSSAA staff which creates the need for consistency on how cancellations are handled. Therefore, the following procedures are in place when a team is unable to play due to a COVID 19 outbreak or school system mandate.

 

1. Region Game- The game will go on record as a no contest for the school that is unable to play due to the outbreak or school system mandate. The school that could have played will receive a region win and overall win in the standings if the school can not replace the game with a new opponent on the same week it was originally scheduled to occur. If the school that could have played does replace the game with another opponent on the same week it was originally scheduled to occur, the school receives a Region win in the standings and the outcome of the game will be used in the overall standings.

 

2. Non Region Game- The game will go on record as a no contest for the school that is unable to play due to the outbreak or school system mandate. The school that could have played will receive a win in the overall standings if the game is not replaced. If the school that could play does replace the game with another opponent, the outcome of the game will be used in the overall standings.

Oh I’ve done way more research than you suggest. Thanks for your good attitude and respect. Glad we are playing football!!

[Rerun92]

8 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Oh I’ve done way more research than you suggest. Thanks for your good attitude and respect. Glad we are playing football!!

If you did the research then why in the world don't you know they answers?

[chill]

Use winning percentage instead of wins 

[sportsguy22]

2 minutes ago, guthook said:

If you did the research then why in the world don't you know they answers?

Because all the answers are simply not given. It was not explained early on that region games should take precedence and it should have been. Also replacing non-region games is tricky for tiebreaking purposes in some cases. The overall record accumulates COVID wins but what if a team adds a non-region game in its natural bye week? Does it replace one of the other non-region game COVID wins and does a team get to select which one it replaces? Or will teams have records with more than 10 total games, 11 or 12 in some cases.

[Rerun92]

59 minutes ago, sportsguy22 said:

Because all the answers are simply not given. It was not explained early on that region games should take precedence and it should have been. Also replacing non-region games is tricky for tiebreaking purposes in some cases. The overall record accumulates COVID wins but what if a team adds a non-region game in its natural bye week? Does it replace one of the other non-region game COVID wins and does a team get to select which one it replaces? Or will teams have records with more than 10 total games, 11 or 12 in some cases.

They don't take precedent.  That was explained. Read the documents i've cited.  it's there.