Franklin County vs Shelbyville BRAWL

[Rerun92]

Using an "Invalid address" is hardly the same thing as a coach choosing to play an ineligible player.  That's why school have to vacate games.  And if a school and coach chooses to play an ineligible player, then maybe the whole team being punished makes sense.

[RocketHouse]

Penalties imposed do not affect both teams equally. Makes no sense to ban a team from playoffs they do not qualify for anyway. What's the punishment in that?  The playoff ban should be the next two times they are playoff eligible. 

[REBELFAN70]

Both sides say the other started it, the game was chippy from the kickoff, Shelbyville incurred 3 unsportsmanlike penalties leading up to the "brawl" tempers were lost on both sides for sure, the incident that started the helmet being pulled off the Shelbyville player has not been shown and could not be seen on home sidelines because it happened on the FC sideline~ still no excuse for players on both sides! A FC player suffered broken ribs while being kicked on the ground, none of that was mentioned yesterday. The fact that Shelbyville is moving up to 6A and out of FC district means they will not be playing each other in the future. The blame game is useless from either side no matter the standings some kids made some huge mistakes that night and TSSAA is going with precedent from past fights in giving out punishment. FC is mainly a sophomore team so they did lose alot in this situation, hopefully both teams can persuade the TSSAA to drop the 2nd year ban next year

 

[Goldenpride]

I seen where this thread on the 1A and 2A board was shut down... what happened?

[BIGPURPLEMACHINE]

32 minutes ago, Goldenpride said:

I seen where this thread on the 1A and 2A board was shut down... what happened?

Mamabear happened....

[workinprogress]

Salem is does affect both equally. Neither will be in the playoffs this year or next. This is what they have done in the past. 

[Goldenpride]

12 minutes ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Mamabear happened....

I must’ve missed something lol

[sportsman20]

On 11/3/2020 at 9:57 AM, REBELFAN70 said:

Both sides say the other started it, the game was chippy from the kickoff, Shelbyville incurred 3 unsportsmanlike penalties leading up to the "brawl" tempers were lost on both sides for sure, the incident that started the helmet being pulled off the Shelbyville player has not been shown and could not be seen on home sidelines because it happened on the FC sideline~ still no excuse for players on both sides! A FC player suffered broken ribs while being kicked on the ground, none of that was mentioned yesterday. The fact that Shelbyville is moving up to 6A and out of FC district means they will not be playing each other in the future. The blame game is useless from either side no matter the standings some kids made some huge mistakes that night and TSSAA is going with precedent from past fights in giving out punishment. FC is mainly a sophomore team so they did lose alot in this situation, hopefully both teams can persuade the TSSAA to drop the 2nd year ban next year

 

The unsportsmanlike conduct penalties were from a Kid sticking the ball out on a touchdown and 2 kids hugging after an interception return for a td. The part that is truly sick is the kid from FC that started the 42 second scrum(not a brawl) was not even ejected. This begs for me to question how the officials recollection of the events are even valid when the main offender was not identified. As far as precedent, 2018 Bruceton vs Mcwen had a bench clearing brawl that took over 10 minutes to clear, both were able to participate in the playoffs. 

[RocketHouse]

On 11/3/2020 at 12:06 PM, workinprogress said:

Salem is does affect both equally. Neither will be in the playoffs this year or next. This is what they have done in the past. 

Technically, yes. In reality no. Shelbyville is 7-3. 4-1 in District and the #2 seed. FC is 2-8, 1-4 and won't sniff the playoffs. That penalty doesn't carry any weight unless you are a playoff team.  It's like saying a 2020 NFL playoff ban on the Pittsburg Steelers and NY Jets is the same. This year only 1 team is actually affected, next year that could change but the ban may be lifted then. 

[BooWhoWiseMan]

1 hour ago, sportsman20 said:

The unsportsmanlike conduct penalties were from a Kid sticking the ball out on a touchdown and 2 kids hugging after an interception return for a td. The part that is truly sick is the kid from FC that started the 42 second scrum(not a brawl) was not even ejected. This begs for me to question how the officials recollection of the events are even valid when the main offender was not identified. As far as precedent, 2018 Bruceton vs Mcwen had a bench clearing brawl that took over 10 minutes to clear, both were able to participate in the playoffs. 

Sportsguy22 Glad to see you back!!  We were hoping you would cool down and return.

 

At this point I don't think it really matters who did what, when, or where.  The decision has been been made.  Time for basketball   

[workinprogress]

Salem technically shelbyville is not in the playoffs so they did not earn a #2 seed. I get what you are saying but reality is neither have qualified for the playoffs based on the incident that occurred in the regular season. 

[Indian]

If they want the punishment to be equal, it should be for the next (or current) seasons they're playoff qualified.