Blackman

[Yellowstone]

1 hour ago, arshad221 said:

If they do that a lot of kids will quit the team just being honest, he rubbed off on a lot of them the wrong way

 

He won the championship.  Was he "Too Mean"?

[arshad221]

1 hour ago, 2minutedrill said:

 

He won the championship.  Was he "Too Mean"?

He should have 4 recently tbh and no but you’ll see. 

[workinprogress]

Sure, hire him as an assistant. But why hire him as the HS head coach? What has he done on the high school level to earn a job like Blackman to compete against Oakland? Come on now. Pierce is a good person and really good middle school coach. But 6A football is a huge jump. 

Edited January 30, 2023 by workinprogress

[Vol9093]

Can y'all think of anybody in the last 20 years who has made the jump from Middle School HC to 6A High School HC?

[MidTennFootball]

A good MS HC is pretty valuable to the building of a program, I think you you weaken the program as a whole if he moves up as just an assistant. Better comparison would probably be 1A/2A to 6A, if you can be successful coaching in the lower classes then you probably can in 6A

[DawgsBDP]

19 hours ago, 2minutedrill said:

If Blackman had a set of balls, they would hire the middle school coach.  

Real balls would bring back Shadowens 

[Yellowstone]

3 hours ago, DawgsPBS said:

Real balls would bring back Shadowens 

He'd win....thats for sure.  

[Yellowstone]

17 hours ago, workinprogress said:

Sure, hire him as an assistant. But why hire him as the HS head coach? What has he done on the high school level to earn a job like Blackman to compete against Oakland? Come on now. Pierce is a good person and really good middle school coach. But 6A football is a huge jump. 

It's high school football, not the NFL.   I've seen much less qualified people get head coaching jobs.   Chandler Tygard coached at Jackson Northside (which is basically a dead program) and got the Blackman job.  It's not like he has some long pedigreed resume, and then left for Cleveland.  People that act like 6A football is some big jump that people just can't handle is such a an excuse.    You have to keep the talent at Blackman to beat Oakland.....Nobody would be more invested than Jay.

 

[DawgsBDP]

35 minutes ago, 2minutedrill said:

It's high school football, not the NFL.   I've seen much less qualified people get head coaching jobs.   Chandler Tygard coached at Jackson Northside (which is basically a dead program) and got the Blackman job.  It's not like he has some long pedigreed resume, and then left for Cleveland.  People that act like 6A football is some big jump that people just can't handle is such a an excuse.    You have to keep the talent at Blackman to beat Oakland.....Nobody would be more invested than Jay.

 

Has a middle school coach ever been hired straight to high school? I don’t know the guy, just curious 

[Blaze45]

53 minutes ago, 2minutedrill said:

It's high school football, not the NFL.   I've seen much less qualified people get head coaching jobs.   Chandler Tygard coached at Jackson Northside (which is basically a dead program) and got the Blackman job.  It's not like he has some long pedigreed resume, and then left for Cleveland.  People that act like 6A football is some big jump that people just can't handle is such a an excuse.    You have to keep the talent at Blackman to beat Oakland.....Nobody would be more invested than Jay.

 

He was a student volunteer coach at UT.. until he landed a job there as an analyst  which he did under Fulmer Kiffin and Dooley, he also was on the coaching staff with Ed Orgeron before coaching Knox Catholic, Ravenwood, and a handful of places before North Jackson. So about 18 years coaching I wouldn't say he is exactly new to the game . The jump from 3a to 5a 6a... may not be a huge deal, but Middle School to High school is a little different story ..

[workinprogress]

3 hours ago, 2minutedrill said:

It's high school football, not the NFL.   I've seen much less qualified people get head coaching jobs.   Chandler Tygard coached at Jackson Northside (which is basically a dead program) and got the Blackman job.  It's not like he has some long pedigreed resume, and then left for Cleveland.  People that act like 6A football is some big jump that people just can't handle is such a an excuse.    You have to keep the talent at Blackman to beat Oakland.....Nobody would be more invested than Jay.

 

Right, it's high school football not the NFL, and not middle school either. We can agree to disagree. If it were a small school it's probably not as big of a jump. But Blackman is not a small school. 

If I'm not mistaken Hughes from Fairview made that jump and has done well in 3A. He's the only one I can think of. 

 

[workinprogress]

14 hours ago, MidTennFootball said:

A good MS HC is pretty valuable to the building of a program, I think you you weaken the program as a whole if he moves up as just an assistant. Better comparison would probably be 1A/2A to 6A, if you can be successful coaching in the lower classes then you probably can in 6A

I agree. MS head coach running the high school system really helps build the program.