Maryville and 5A

[Ntheknow2]

For the sake of adding fuel to the fire, IMO classification does matter and here's why. First of all, large schools have a larger population of students, therefore they have a LOT more players to deal with then smaller schools. If you take into the consideration the academics of the school (good or bad, in this case good), then what you will find as with Maryville, that there are a lot of excellent, coachable players decorating the team. (Consider players with positive attitude and who respect their coaches.) Unfortunately, there will also be a lot of excellent players who do not necessarily standout like they would if they were playing for a smaller school simply because their teams are playing other schools with a lot of good players too.

 

As for Maryville (a community with a lot of room to grow), on the plus side, moving them up to class 5A is just going to give them more opportunity to pull in more good players and become a bigger, even better team. But that's not just because they have an excellent football program. It's also because they have a school that performs well academically too. Isn't that the Oak Ridge experience as well? I mean come on, these coaches know how to teach team work, right? They have to.

 

On other message boards, you can read where people have posted their top 5 prospects in the state, but my question is what is the classification of the teams these guys are playing for? and would they be the standouts if they were playing for schools in higher classifications? That's not to take away from their crediability, but I'm going have to say that yea, I think classification makes a huge difference. Furthermore, it won't hurt Maryville one bit to move up in classification. They may have to build another high school

Edited May 30, 2006 by Ntheknow2

[cpk20]

For the sake of adding fuel to the fire, IMO classification does matter and here's why. First of all, large schools have a larger population of students, therefore they have a LOT more players to deal with then smaller schools. If you take into the consideration the academics of the school (good or bad, in this case good), then what you will find as with Maryville, that there are a lot of excellent, coachable players decorating the team. (Consider players with positive attitude and who respect their coaches.) Unfortunately, there will also be a lot of excellent players who do not necessarily standout like they would if they were playing for a smaller school simply because their teams are playing other schools with a lot of good players too.

 

As for Maryville (a community with a lot of room to grow), on the plus side, moving them up to class 5A is just going to give them more opportunity to pull in more good players and become a bigger, even better team. But that's not just because they have an excellent football program. It's also because they have a school that performs well academically too. Isn't that the Oak Ridge experience as well? I mean come on, these coaches know how to teach team work, right? They have to.

 

On other message boards, you can read where people have posted their top 5 prospects in the state, but my question is what is the classification of the teams these guys are playing for? and would they be the standouts if they were playing for schools in higher classifications? That's not to take away from their crediability, but I'm going have to say that yea, I think classification makes a huge difference. Furthermore, it won't hurt Maryville one bit to move up in classification. They may have to build another high school

 

Very good post. I agree with what you have said and there are always exceptions to the rule. Some very good players come out of smaller classification schools and go on to play D1/NFL but the majority of "terrific" players in smaller class schools would probably not put up big numbers at a large class school. For example, on a recent discussion about top players in the state, someone posted a player with 90 receptions, 1000+ yards as a junior but that player played at a 1A school. I highly doubt that you'd see him have that kind of year at a 4/5A school, but we will never know...

[STARSNBARS]

Maryville is in the planning process of school expansion as we speak. They will expand the present high school and it's campus.

Edited May 30, 2006 by STARSNBARS

[airraid09]

i agree that maryville is one of the great football programs in the state, 2 weeks ago their rugby team played in the state championship game against brentwood and lost 52-7. i know that we cannot compare rugby to football but i don't believe maryville will be walking away with a lot of gold balls in 5a football.

[STARSNBARS]

i agree that maryville is one of the great football programs in the state, 2 weeks ago their rugby team played in the state championship game against brentwood and lost 52-7. i know that we cannot compare rugby to football but i don't believe maryville will be walking away with a lot of gold balls in 5a football.

 

airraid09 that makes as much sense as Maryville beating Brentwood Academy for state football championships 27-0 in 1976 and 21-14 in 1978 and it's relevence to Maryville and B.A. football in 2006.

Edited May 30, 2006 by STARSNBARS

[REBELRON]

Outside of Maryville what other 4A team do you think could/would compete on the 5A level? For one game or even one season I agree with you that the classification probably wouldn`t matter when it comes to the top teams, but what about over the course of a few seasons? We pretty much agree that Maryville could move up and still compete, but what if Mo West(10-0 regular season) moved up? They`d finish 3rd in their region and wouldn`t get out of the 2nd round. This argument goes out the window when you look below Maryville at the rest of 4A.

 

 

 

 

I think MOWest would do fine in 5A. They would be in Dobyns Bennetts region. They would fight it out with DB for 1st place in the region every year.

 

Central would do fine in 5A also. If it wasn't for Maryville they would have been to several 4A title games.

 

I think Powell could compete also.

 

Not every team in 5A is great.

 

I think the 1st 3 rounds in 4A or 5A would be no different. Where 5A is much harder is the semifinal game. Playing Riverdale is much harder than playing MOWest or TN High. But! With Rankin gone Riverdale won't be as strong.

[Ntheknow2]

I was just thinking about Alcoa. If the trend in Maryville is to move up, then how will that effect Alcoa schools? I'm not sure how many students they have but I know they are in 3A. Are they prime for moving up in 4A? and how do you think they would fare with 4A teams? Things that make ya go hmmmm.......

[Ntheknow2]

Alcoa is 2a?

 

They are only 2A? WOW! Didn't know that. I thought they were larger than that.

[REBELRON]

Scary thing is the are almost a 1A school enrollment wise.

[Champ man]

They are only 2A? WOW! Didn't know that. I thought they were larger than that.

Alcoa is probaly the exception but the last couple of years they could compete in any classification eventhough their 2-A!

[HTV]

Scary thing is the are almost a 1A school enrollment wise.

 

If memory serves, Ron, at an enrollment of 386 Alcoa could still play single A football, if they chose to, but they opted to stay in AA.

[medman]

Jc4life--I gotta disagree. There are a number of 4a teams that would compete year in and year out very well in 5a outside of Maryville. MOWest would do well, as would Central, Powell and Halls. In Middle TN, I believe that Hillsboro would do very well. Out in W TN, Melrose and Memphis East would be outstanding teams, as well as JCM. There are probably a few more that I am omitting. Being in 5a does not mean as much as people think. If a 4a team as 80 to 90 kids and a 5a has the same amount, what's the difference?

 

As Rebelron said, not all 5a teams are good. DB is an outstanding program. But if you put MOWest and Central in that region, I bet it would be a dog fight for the top spot. Maryville and OR will be fun to watch. There are plenty of examples around the state.