here come the poor kids

[Old Timer]

Just to be the devil's advocate....

 

At a basketball game a couple of years where my private high school was playing a small town public high school, an adult fan (presumably a parent) had a sign that read:

 

TICKET : $5

POPCORN: $1

COKE: $1

WATCHING RICH PRICKS GET THEIR BUTTS WHIPPED: PRICELESS

 

Kublah, I then remember a bunch of students from that same private school then showing up in their fancy suits and ties to return the favor. Don't remember any grown ups doing it though

[Kublah]

Haha yeah I was actually one of the ring leaders for that. My friends and I still get a good laugh from that one.

[oknative]

Haha yeah I was actually one of the ring leaders for that. My friends and I still get a good laugh from that one.

So if it was your private school, does that make you the rich ######? (thank you CoachT for the auto-deleting software)

Edited December 7, 2006 by oknative

[Kublah]

So if it was your private school, does that make you the rich ######? (thank you CoachT for the auto-deleting software)

 

You know it.

[lazarus]

just to make it clear, i didnt post that to cast a shadow on BA.

i was shocked to hear it said about BA,

because their people have always been so classy in my experience.

 

some of the other things that have been brought up;

 

the priceless rich kids sign would not have been displayed at our school

for one minute after anyone in school administration saw it.

i wont make any promises about what some of our "adults" or students

might do or say, prior to being stopped.

but it would be stopped.

 

the statement that parents should not expect the school to keep their kids from acting a fool is the complete opposite of my experience.

 

in public school,

if a coach thinks that every kid has been taught how to act at home,

that coach is dreaming.

 

i have found that it is wise to let the kids know in advance

how they are expected to act towards opponents & officials.

some of them have parents who believe their kid should be cussing out officials

and taking swings at opponents in every game.

 

it might sound good to say that parents are responsible for teaching kids how to act,

but it is not realistic in every situation.

i think 'how to act' is one of the important lessons we teach.

[canton]

i have mulled this over for a couple of days

and curiosity has finally gotten the better of me.

i cant believe it is true, i just gotta know.

 

a person i know went to watch the BA-shelbyville basketball games.

according to him,

when the shelbyville teams came into the gym off the bus

the BA student body started chanting

"here come the poor kids, here come the..."

 

like i say,

i have a hard time believing it.

every contact i have ever had with BA

(admittedly none in many years)

the behavior of the students has been impeccable.

 

yet, this is a person with no connection to either team

just there to see a ball game.

(a private school person no less).

i dont have any reason to doubt the story.

 

is there some sort of "history" between shelbyville & BA?

has BA completely changed?

was this an anomaly & the students got in big trouble?

what is the real story?

does anyone know more about this?

 

 

I ask a friend who was at that BA/Shelbyville game and he said no that it did not happen. He said that if any of the students had said that, everyone of them would have weeks of Saturday school.

[itzme]

i have mulled this over for a couple of days

and curiosity has finally gotten the better of me.

i cant believe it is true, i just gotta know.

 

a person i know went to watch the BA-shelbyville basketball games.

according to him,

when the shelbyville teams came into the gym off the bus

the BA student body started chanting

"here come the poor kids, here come the..."

 

like i say,

i have a hard time believing it.

every contact i have ever had with BA

(admittedly none in many years)

the behavior of the students has been impeccable.

 

yet, this is a person with no connection to either team

just there to see a ball game.

(a private school person no less).

i dont have any reason to doubt the story.

 

is there some sort of "history" between shelbyville & BA?

has BA completely changed?

was this an anomaly & the students got in big trouble?

what is the real story?

does anyone know more about this?

 

I was not at this game. Having attended literally hundreds of BA athletic events over the years, however, I can assure you that this would be completely out of character for the students to do. Even if one or two young kids started something like that, the upperclassmen would have shut them down so fast their heads would have spun. In addition, it would not have been tolerated by the school administration. They will blow students out of the gym for things that are much less offensive, believe me.

 

There is no way this happened. Your friend may have been pulling your leg.

[supersteve17]

just to make it clear, i didnt post that to cast a shadow on BA.

i was shocked to hear it said about BA,

because their people have always been so classy in my experience.

 

some of the other things that have been brought up;

 

the priceless rich kids sign would not have been displayed at our school

for one minute after anyone in school administration saw it.

i wont make any promises about what some of our "adults" or students

might do or say, prior to being stopped.

but it would be stopped.

 

the statement that parents should not expect the school to keep their kids from acting a fool is the complete opposite of my experience.

 

in public school,

if a coach thinks that every kid has been taught how to act at home,

that coach is dreaming.

 

i have found that it is wise to let the kids know in advance

how they are expected to act towards opponents & officials.

some of them have parents who believe their kid should be cussing out officials

and taking swings at opponents in every game.

 

it might sound good to say that parents are responsible for teaching kids how to act,

but it is not realistic in every situation.

i think 'how to act' is one of the important lessons we teach.

 

Very well said, laz! I would quibble with one statement you made and perhaps it is only a matter of semantics, but the fact is that parents are responsible for their children's actions and behavior. Just as surely not all parents accept that responsibility! Overall I agree with your statement. Thank you!

[cbg]

just to make it clear, i didnt post that to cast a shadow on BA.

i was shocked to hear it said about BA,

because their people have always been so classy in my experience.

 

some of the other things that have been brought up;

 

the priceless rich kids sign would not have been displayed at our school

for one minute after anyone in school administration saw it.

i wont make any promises about what some of our "adults" or students

might do or say, prior to being stopped.

but it would be stopped.

 

the statement that parents should not expect the school to keep their kids from acting a fool is the complete opposite of my experience.

 

in public school,

if a coach thinks that every kid has been taught how to act at home,

that coach is dreaming.

 

i have found that it is wise to let the kids know in advance

how they are expected to act towards opponents & officials.

some of them have parents who believe their kid should be cussing out officials

and taking swings at opponents in every game.

 

it might sound good to say that parents are responsible for teaching kids how to act,

but it is not realistic in every situation.

i think 'how to act' is one of the important lessons we teach.

 

If the parents are not responsible for teaching their children how to act then who is? The parents had the child and unless they have given up custody of that child would you tell me who is responsible. Why would the school or coach be responsible? If the school is going to be responsible for how students act then that is just another government program to be paid for by taxes. Is anyone ever going to take a firm stance and tell the so called parents that they are responsible for their children? This sounds like it is nothing more than a vicious cycle of idiots with no parenting skills having children and then walking away from their responsibilities and the government allowing them to get away with it.

Edited December 9, 2006 by cbg

[fan6]

I was at the BA Shelbyville game and certainly din't hear any chants like that. As others have posted, I can guarantee that if a chant like that did start, it would have been shut down quick.

 

There was a lot of good banter back and forth with the Shelbyville crowd and the BA students. Shelbyville traveled well and thier small (but lowd) student section and BA's student section went back and forth. There were some "Recruiting" chants from the Shelbyville side and the BA students did start to chant "Start your Tractors" towards the end (which was shut down pretty quick) -- that was about as bad as it got. From where I sat, both sides were having fun and watching some pretty good basketball.

[uncfan13]

I was in the student section at Carmichael (pre Dean Dome). The students started chanting Bull**** Bull*****. Dean Smith called a timeout. Went to the PR system and announced that UNC students didn't do that.

On the other hand that would be one of the few chants that Dukies do that you could post on a family website.

 

Smith was all class.

[Soccer Gypsy]

If the parents are not responsible for teaching their children how to act then who is? The parents had the child and unless they have given up custody of that child would you tell me who is responsible. Why would the school or coach be responsible? If the school is going to be responsible for how students act then that is just another government program to be paid for by taxes. Is anyone ever going to take a firm stance and tell the so called parents that they are responsible for their children? This sounds like it is nothing more than a vicious cycle of idiots with no parenting skills having children and then walking away from their responsibilities and the government allowing them to get away with it.

 

 

It's a school function which is why the school or coach is responsible for the behavior of their fans. I don't think anyone is arguing parents teach kids how to behave, but kids don't always listen. Shoot, adults don't always listen. Behavior is a learned trait and many factors go into how kids behave. Peer pressure, television, movies, and pop culture to name a few. A blanket statement blaming parents for kids mistakes is to simple. Everyone makes mistakes.

 

I don't have a problem with ties, overalls, or even the sign, except for the wording at the end. "Watching public beat private...priceless" sounds more suitable. Chants and cheers should show school spirit and pride in your team, not to put down or belittle the other team.

 

I wasn't at the game so I have no clue what was said or not said. I wouldn't think any school would let this go on for to long once it got started. Very creative though.

 

Dean Smith was and will always be 'The Man'.