Powell getting a big boost

[TopTenn]

49 minutes ago, Swipes said:

You are going to have to be more specific than that.  If they moved into each zone then yes they will be eligible or if their legal guardian is coaching at the new school.  I'm assuming you're talking about Carlevato who transfered from Bearden (Started for them at QB while he was there) to west last year and sat out so he would be eligible this year.  The QB that transferred  from Greeneville to JC didn't get really good playing time last year at all so i don't know were you got that info from, he was 3rd/4th on the depth chart.

Does playing JV not count against eligibility? Also, explain 20 miles as the crow flies.

[HTV]

2 hours ago, TopTenn said:

Does playing JV not count against eligibility? Also, explain 20 miles as the crow flies.

No.  JV isn't sanctioned by the TSSAA, so it doesn't really exist as far as being eligible or ineligible.  

Kids who decide to transfer without a change of residence can and do play on JV teams until they are eligible to play varsity sports after a year from last participation.  

[PurplePanther]

1 minute ago, HTV said:

No.  JV isn't sanctioned by the TSSAA, so it doesn't really exist as far as being eligible or ineligible.  

Kids who decide to transfer without a change of residence can and do play on JV teams until they are eligible to play varsity sports after a year from last participation.  

Respectfully disagree on this.  I know of a case personally in Mid Tn last year.  Kid transferred from a DII JV program to a 5A school 18 miles away.  There was a compromise and the kid only sat for the first 3 games.  I think TSSAA addresses this as well for 9th graders.

[HTV]

5 minutes ago, PurplePanther said:

Respectfully disagree on this.  I know of a case personally in Mid Tn last year.  Kid transferred from a DII JV program to a 5A school 18 miles away.  There was a compromise and the kid only sat for the first 3 games.  I think TSSAA addresses this as well for 9th graders.

I think there may be some more to it when going from a D2 to D1 or the other way around, but I have never heard of an instance in Knox County public schools where a student came from another public school and wasn't allowed to play JV sports if they didn't physically move.  

 

[Rerun92]

Students Changing Schools Section 11.

 

General Provisions. Residence. A student changing schools for any reason, to be eligible, must live at home with his/her parent(s) or guardian(s), unless: (a) the student is moving to a boarding school and has no athletic record the previous twelve months in any sport; (b) the student is moving as a direct result of the dissolution of the student's home due to death; (c) the student is moving as a direct result of the divorce of the student's parents; or (d) the student is moving as a direct result of the separation of the student's parents, provided a complaint or petition for absolute divorce has been filed with a court having jurisdiction to grant the divorce. "Transfer Student" Defined. A transfer student is any student changing schools for any reason other than having completed the highest, or terminal, grade at another school. A student who must change schools because he/she has completed the highest grade at his/her previous school is not considered a transfer student and is eligible to participate in athletics at any school he/she attends, without further approval, provided he/she satisfies the residence requirement above.

Executive Director Approval Required. A school may not allow a transfer student to participate in athletics until his/her eligibility has been verified and approved by the Executive Director. The school is responsible for the accuracy and completeness of the information supplied to the Executive Director for this purpose. Participation While Ineligible. If a student who is ineligible, under these provisions regarding students changing schools, competes in a contest while ineligible, then the student upon becoming eligible under these provisions will nonetheless be ineligible to participate in twice the number of contests in which he/she participated as an ineligible student or will be ineligible for the remainder of the season, whichever is less.

 

Section 12. Eligible Transfer Students. Except as otherwise provided in Section 13

 

below, the following transfer students are eligible: a. The student has no athletic record in the previous twelve months in any sport sponsored by TSSAA; b. There has been a bona fide change of residence by the student's entire family unit in which (1) the old residence is outside the territory of the new school, (2) the new residence is outside the territory of the old school, and (3) the new residence is inside the territory of the new school. If such a change of residence occurs between school years, the student must transfer at the beginning of the school year to be eligible. If the change of residence occurs during the school year, the student may transfer without loss of eligibility (1) at the time his/her parents change residence; (2) at the end of the next report card period; (3) at the close of the semester or term; or (4) at the close of the school year; c. The student changes schools as a direct result of re-zoning or re-assignment of students by the local school system provided the student transfers at the time they are re-zoned or re-assigned; d. The student is moving from a boarding school where they are a boarder to the school serving the territory where his/her parents live, or vice versa, provided the student has attended the school he/she is leaving for a minimum of twelve months and provided the principal at the school he/she is leaving indicates in writing that the move is not for athletic or disciplinary reasons. The move must be at the beginning of the school year. (Note: The school must be outside the day school territory of the boarding school.); e. The student is transferring to a senior high school in the same system into the earliest grade offered at that senior high school, i.e. at the student's first opportunity to move to that school; f. The student who has been determined by a Court to be dependent and neglected and consequently changes residences and schools as a result of a Court order; g. The first time the student changes residence from one parent to the other as a result of a court ordered custody change, so long as the principal of the former school attests in writing that the move was not for athletic or disciplinary reasons; or h. The first time the student changes residence from a guardian to either or both parents as a result of a court ordered custody change, so long as the principal of the former school attests in writing that the move was not for athletic or disciplinary reasons; i. The student is attending school where the student's parent works as a full-time certified teacher, that parent takes a full-time job as a certified teacher at a different school, and the student transfers to the school where the parent takes the new job. The transfer must take place when the parent takes the job or, if the job change occurs during the school year, the transfer must take place when the parent takes the new job or must be made at the beginning of the following school year; j. The student who transfers from school A to school B and then returns to school A without having participated in any sanctioned sport at any level or without practicing three or more days after the first official TSSAA day of practice in any sport at any level at school B. This must be verified in writing by the administration of school B.

 

Section 13. Ineligible Transfer Students. The following transfer students are ineligible for a period of twelve months from the student's last participation date: a. A student who transfers without a bona fide change of residence; b. A student who transfers as a result of a change of residence is ineligible unless (1) the old residence is outside the territory of the new school, (2) the new residence is outside the territory of the old school, and (3) the new residence is inside the territory of the new school; c. If a student has been ruled eligible as a result of a change of residence, and the parents or guardian return to the former residence before the student has been enrolled in the new school for one complete school year (or twelve months if the transfer occurred during the school year), the student will be ineligible for twelve months from his/her last participation date; d. If a student has satisfied all other requirements for eligibility but was under discipline at his/her former school, the student shall be ineligible at the new school in all sports for twelve months or until the disciplinary charges have been removed, whichever is less. A student is considered to be “under discipline” if he or she has been suspended from school and/or placed in an alternative setting. The discipline has been removed if the school that has imposed the disciplinary action would allow the student to re-enroll. e. If a student with an athletic record transfers to a new school where an “athletic coaching link” existed in the past 12 months, that student is ineligible for 12 months past their first date of enrollment at the new school at all levels in the specific sports where a linkage was present. Links may include (1) attendance at an individual camp (and then transferring); (2) playing on non-school (independent) teams (and then transferring to that coach’s school); (3) transferring into a school where a former coach has been hired; and (4) transferring to a school where a former or current personal trainer or strength and conditioning coach is employed. This rule does not apply if the student moves to his/her new schools after completion of the highest ending grade at his/her previous school. If the ineligible transfer student has an athletic record for the previous or current school year in any TSSAA sanctioned sport, the student will be ineligible to participate in the sport(s) in which an athletic record has been established. 

[Rerun92]

It cracks me up when we speculate on the rules as though they aren't readily available in black and white.

[TopTenn]

6 hours ago, HTV said:

No.  JV isn't sanctioned by the TSSAA, so it doesn't really exist as far as being eligible or ineligible.  

Kids who decide to transfer without a change of residence can and do play on JV teams until they are eligible to play varsity sports after a year from last participation.  

Thank you

[orngnblk]

15 hours ago, HTV said:

I think there may be some more to it when going from a D2 to D1 or the other way around, but I have never heard of an instance in Knox County public schools where a student came from another public school and wasn't allowed to play JV sports if they didn't physically move.  

 

In public schools this is correct.Haven't studies the private school rules.

[Rerun92]

2 hours ago, orngnblk said:

In public schools this is correct.Haven't studies the private school rules.

I know for certain of an instance where students moved from private to public and were not released by the school (Private, high- profile recruiting, knoxville).  They wanted the student to move 20 miles away.  He finally had to in order to play.

Edited August 5, 2021 by Knoxemdown

[orngnblk]

59 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said:

I know for certain instances wher students moved from private to public and were not released by the school (Private, high- profile recruiting, knoxville).  They wanted the student to move 20 miles away.  He finally had to in order to play.

Yeah there is a 20 mile rule.I just have never looked it over good enough to debate it.

[orngnblk]

Just now, orngnblk said:

Yeah there is a 20 mile rule.I just have never looked it over good enough to debate it.But my understanding is JV doesnt count.

 

[HTV]

14 minutes ago, orngnblk said:

 

Yep.  Like I said, the TSSAA doesn't sanction JV or freshman teams.  To them they don't exist.  

For those who believe otherwise, let me know when the JV and Freshman team state playoffs begin.  

 

 

Edited August 5, 2021 by HTV