BCsportsfan Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 2 hours ago, MidStateFan1 said: Oakland his better than Maryville...Period! I watched LA play Oakland and they controlled the game against them for three quarters. McCallie I believe was the best team in the state. Alcoa is very good, but definitely would not beat any of those teams. We all know the game is played on the field , I am answering a hypothetical post. If you can't handle it, don't read these posts. How about you ask the McCallie Coach about the scrimmage with Alcoa this summer and get back with us! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, theawesomebro said: you keep basing your opinion on past seasons. we are talking about THIS season where Alcoa had a MUCH easier schedule than any of the other teams mentioned. I get that Alcoa's long term success is very special but it has little to do with what happens this year outside of team experience. I think Oakland beat LA partially due to experience in tough games (LA had zero close games all year) but they are just a great team. I don't think Alcoa's past years override the fact that they didn't play a tough schedule to show what they can do. and Alcoa isn't the only team having trouble scheduling. Dilfer called out teams on the radio by name that they wouldn't take his call. I don't have anything to do with scheduling and you probably don't either. but please don't act like Alcoa is the only school that has a tough time finding teams. LA played 3 out of state opponents for that very reason. BTW, one was a top 100 defending and eventual state champ of Arkansas...and they got mercy ruled. that plus smoking CPA 2 times are quality wins which Alcoa doesn't have. in the end, I hope LA's success continues and they get to play teams like Alcoa. I'm basing it on this season. They just happen to have the equity of the past seasons. But it seems those in the Mid-State area want to discredit Alcoa by playing the we beat this team we beat that team game so therefore Alcoa would lose. Those games have no merit and playing Oakland close doesn't qualify as anything other than a loss. Right now it's Oakland, Alcoa and then argue for 3rd and beyond based on this year. I'm not discrediting LA and congratulations as Trent disrupted the private school cycle in Nashville. I'm sure, LA had issues scheduling game. Alcoa plays whoever is front of them weak or not and end result is same if that team is not named Maryville. For the record I'm not a Alcoa fan or any affiliation, just someone who acknowledges they are in a class that only Oakland and Maryville can relate to at this moment in time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidStateFan1 Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 39 minutes ago, BCsportsfan said: Bet those really good teams don't have 20 state champions! Awesome! Continue to dominate 3a! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidStateFan1 Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 29 minutes ago, JohnnyUtah said: I'm basing it on this season. They just happen to have the equity of the past seasons. But it seems those in the Mid-State area want to discredit Alcoa by playing the we beat this team we beat that team game so therefore Alcoa would lose. Those games have no merit and playing Oakland close doesn't qualify as anything other than a loss. Right now it's Oakland, Alcoa and then argue for 3rd and beyond based on this year. I'm not discrediting LA and congratulations as Trent disrupted the private school cycle in Nashville. I'm sure, LA had issues scheduling game. Alcoa plays whoever is front of them weak or not and end result is same if that team is not named Maryville. For the record I'm not a Alcoa fan or any affiliation, just someone who acknowledges they are in a class that only Oakland and Maryville can relate to at this moment in time. LA is at least as good as Oakland. I'm by NO means an LA fan, just being truthful because I saw the game in person. Edited December 13, 2021 by MidStateFan1 s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, MidStateFan1 said: LA is at least as good as Oakland. I'm by NO means an LA fan, just being truthful because I saw the game in person. Ok. Then Alcoa is at least as good as Oakland. Just being truthful under this scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theawesomebro Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 25 minutes ago, JohnnyUtah said: I'm basing it on this season. They just happen to have the equity of the past seasons. But it seems those in the Mid-State area want to discredit Alcoa by playing the we beat this team we beat that team game so therefore Alcoa would lose. Those games have no merit and playing Oakland close doesn't qualify as anything other than a loss. Right now it's Oakland, Alcoa and then argue for 3rd and beyond based on this year. I'm not discrediting LA and congratulations as Trent disrupted the private school cycle in Nashville. I'm sure, LA had issues scheduling game. Alcoa plays whoever is front of them weak or not and end result is same if that team is not named Maryville. For the record I'm not a Alcoa fan or any affiliation, just someone who acknowledges they are in a class that only Oakland and Maryville can relate to at this moment in time. well Alcoa's strength of schedule doesn't back you up this year. dilfer got oakland to play with one week's notice. maybe you guys didnt call. : ) note I based LA's performance on 3 quality wins, not the close loss. I am sorry you feel I am discrediting Alcoa. no disrespect intended. I try to mention my respect for their tradition regularly. I think I am just asking for respect for teams not named Alcoa or Maryville and once again, I think the quality wins back it up. fingers crossed for some matchups in years to come. in any case, I came over here to enjoy this enthusiastic fanbase and you didn't disappoint. all the best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PurplePanther Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 Great discussion and I love seeing all the back and forth. To answer the original question, I think Oakland, McCallie, and LA beat Alcoa this year.....that's my opinion. It is also my opinion that Rankin is one of the best coaches in Tn HS football history and he has the Ships to back it up...even before he got to Alcoa. Riverdale was Oakland in Murfreesboro while Rankin coached. They guy takes good talent and makes them better. Since I'm kicking the hornet's nest...Does the Baylor job interest Rankin? Boarding school and recruiting? That's another thread... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidStateFan1 Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 31 minutes ago, JohnnyUtah said: Ok. Then Alcoa is at least as good as Oakland. Just being truthful under this scenario. Not a chance! I don't recall Alcoa playing LA. Again, you barely beat Knox West Edited December 13, 2021 by MidStateFan1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 11 minutes ago, MidStateFan1 said: Not a chance! I don't recall Alcoa playing LA. Again, you barely beat Knox West What's this you? I stated earlier I'm not affiliated with Alcoa. Just know when people think they can beat them, they don't. I'm a Powell guy, we beat West 35-7. Again, in Tennessee it's Oakland, Alcoa and then everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerblazer Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 On 12/10/2021 at 10:37 AM, blazer1set said: Here is a proposed playoff system that might answer such questions, although the TSSAA will never adopt anything like this: Never happen. Do the math on the amount of games played in the football playoffs. Now start counting how many people go to each game.. Each playoff ticket costs $8, 4 of it goes to the TSSAA. Based on the system right now, the TSSAA pays all their bills and breaks even by the end of the year. Ain't happening, TSSAA would be killing their bottom line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theawesomebro Posted December 13, 2021 Author Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, JohnnyUtah said: Again, in Tennessee it's Oakland, Alcoa and then everyone else. you mean, Oakland, Maryville, Alcoa? that's actual on the field results. : ) and since history matters so much in regards to this year...Alcoa has only beaten Maryville once in the last 11 years or so. not even close. Edited December 13, 2021 by theawesomebro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyUtah Posted December 13, 2021 Report Share Posted December 13, 2021 21 minutes ago, theawesomebro said: you mean, Oakland, Maryville, Alcoa? that's actual on the field results. : ) and since history matters so much in regards to this year...Alcoa has only beaten Maryville once in the last 11 years or so. not even close. Yep, that's what I said originally. Until is was spun with hypotheticals. Said in my first post, Oakland because they shown to be the only team to beat Maryville. And Maryville because they've been the only team to beat Alcoa. As the hypotheticals kept playing out, just cut Maryville out and go straight to the point. Oakland, Alcoa and everyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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