Indian Posted April 15, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Why is it hard to understand they'd be playing BGA, SAS, St George's, SBEC and not McCallie or Brentwood Academy? Aid or no aid, do you think there would be a competition imbalance between the schools involved? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt Posted April 15, 2008 Report Share Posted April 15, 2008 Why is it hard to understand they'd be playing BGA, SAS, St George's, SBEC and not McCallie or Brentwood Academy? Aid or no aid, do you think there would be a competition imbalance between the schools involved? Yes, I know who they would be playing and it would be a hardship on some schools. For example, I don't think it is reasonable for Davidson Academy to play half their regional football games in Memphis and Jackson. I don't think it is reasonable for Ensworth, JP2, Father Ryan, etc. to play their region tournament at Knox Webb or regular season region games in Knoxville or Chattanooga. I don't think it is reasonable for anyone to play regular season region/district games in baseball, softball or soccer 150-200 miles away. Yes, I have seen your proposed district/region pairings and they all assume that all private schools are in one division. I am not sure I understand your question about a competition imbalance. But if the ability to provide financial aid is not a competitive advantage, why was D2 created in the first place? I don't understand why the answer to every problem is "They would be better off moving to D2." Shouldn't these schools are some voice in their own fate? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Indian Posted April 16, 2008 Author Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Shouldn't the convenience of playing nearby or relatively nearby opponents in region play be a reason such teams would want to play in Division II? As for having no voice in what classification they're in, some rural teams for whatever reason, maybe nearer opponents, might prefer to play in an urban classification. They'd have no choice from the way I read things. Others may not agree with the district they're in, lack of money opponents, etc. A total split was wanted at the beginning whether private schools offered aid or not but it seems a compromise was reached to satisfy the large public schools (Riverdale, etc). Goodpasture was originally in Division II which helped the feelings at the time but after they had a hard time winning in football they entered Division I. They were 5-6 in Division II the year before winning a state title in Division I if I'm not mistaken. Notre Dame struggled, entered Division I and went to a 3A semifinal despite playing with a multiplier and despite losing scholarship/aid athletes. As I've said on here plenty of times, I still think the TSSAA dangled the threat of games with MBA and Brentwood Academy over the small privates, influencing most to choose the Division I route-even when having to take aid athletes off varsity rosters. That's wrong, too. You're right, it's silly to have to go such distances, that's a reason why the complete split should take place, or an urban-rural division should start. As for the large Division II teams, the more who join and show they can compete at that level, the better the travel should be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
global98 Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 How likely does anyone think the urban-rural split will actually occur as the method of choice for the TSSAA? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVM Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 How likely does anyone think the urban-rural split will actually occur as the method of choice for the TSSAA? It would be like voting for Ron Paul for president....Everyone knows he's right, but it just ain't going to happen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taydizzle Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 MVM, if the urban-rural split is not going to happen, what do you think will happen? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVM Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 MVM, if the urban-rural split is not going to happen, what do you think will happen? Nothing... They will move some teams depending on the new enrollment figures. That's it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
taydizzle Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 MVM, multiplier? No multiplier? Just like it is now D-I, D-II? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MVM Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 MVM, multiplier? No multiplier? Just like it is now D-I, D-II? It will stay the same. The Multiplier will stay intact and there will be no split. It's like the old saying " if everyone is complaining, than it must be the right thing to do". /roflolk.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":roflolk:" border="0" alt="roflolk.gif" /> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHSCoach Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I think the multiplier will come off, ole T$$AA does not want to face another lawsuit for an Arbitrary multiplier, placed on schools just because they are non public, they would have to apply it to magnet schools, schools that accept out of zone kids and charge tuition, if they don't they will be sued yet again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
old24eagle Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I think the multiplier will come off, ole T$$AA does not want to face another lawsuit for an Arbitrary multiplier, placed on schools just because they are non public, they would have to apply it to magnet schools, schools that accept out of zone kids and charge tuition, if they don't they will be sued yet again Does the The TSSAA legally have to allow everyone to be members , and participate in sports under their guidance. If not the TSSAA could just not allow the privates to be members anymore.That might stop a few lawsuits /dry.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=" . What I don't understand is why you would sue someone over highschool sports. No wait I do understand , Private schools are a business and when your business is on top (winning sports teams) then you get more business(student athletes) when you get more business you make more $$$$$$ , and when someone does something to damage your business (multiplier) you sue them for the $$$$$$ you stand to lose. Go Getem private schools you teach our youth that if you can't always win sue someone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KCHSCoach Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 I guess one could look at it like that, but "Private" schools and "Parochial' are really not in it for the money. infact anyone in education would know its not for the money. Its about fairness, how is fair for a 1.8 multiplier for all private schools, that don't give scholarships, It is not up to the TSSAA to decide who is in or not, aslong as schools fallow the rules. go teachem public schools, teach your youth, if you can't win, just go legislate a championship, water down and try to force the "competion" out. Don't try teaching them work ethic, decipline, or dedication Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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