ogor Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Ok. This topic came up on another thread. Should a referee work a game where the alma mater he played for and graduated from was participating? Here was my response on the other thread (I removed the school's name in an attempt to stay on topic and reduce defensive responses: Here goes my futal attempt to enlighten some folks. I don't know this referee, but if he graduated from (school name), and he is refereeing (school name) games, then there is a problem. I commend you for sticking up for this guy, but you "are" missing the point. I am as defensive as the next guy, but I try to see the big picture now and then. A great official would not put himself in those games. It is unfortunate that this has not been addressed before now. Believe it or not, despite fan's reactions to referees, there is a certain level of trust and respect that most people have for referees. Dual realtionships such as alumni, family, work, etc. destroys that trust and respect. Here are a couple of referee standards to keep in mind: Integrity Referees seek to promote integrity in the practice of refereeing. Referees are honest, fair, and respectful of others. Referees do no make statements that are false, misleading, or deceptive. Referees strive to be aware of their own belief systems, values, needs, and limitations and the effect of these on their work. To the extent feasible, they attempt to clarify for relevant parties, the role they are performing and to function appropriately in accordance with that role. Referees avoid improper and potentially harmful dual relationships. In many communities and situations, it may not be feasible or reasonable for Referees to avoid social or other nonprofessional contacts with athletes and coaches and other participants. Referees must always be sensitive to the potentially harmful effects of other contacts on their work and on those persons with whom they deal. A referee refrains from entering into or promising another personal, professional, financial, or other relationship with such persons if it appears likely that such a relationship reasonable might impair the referee’s objectivity or otherwise interfere with the referee’s effective performance of his or her functions as a referee, or might harm or exploit the other party. Where ever feasible, a referee must refrain from taking on professional obligations when preexisting relationship would create a risk of such harm. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchoolCharger Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 It should not happen but the few instances I have seen it done around here, the school the ref went to NEVER seemed to get the close call, it always went against the home team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDArtist Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 He might be the most honest man on the field but that is not a situation that I would put myself in. No matter what happens, you are going to be blamed for every little thing that went wrong by one side or the other - too tough on the alma mater, home-cooking, etc. Just not a good move for a varsity football game...JV or freshman, no biggie, just a glorified scrimmage anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooter Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GreenbrierCat2 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 The answer, of course, is no. It was a question of something that happened. It was not a presumption that this ref was calling his alma mater game because it was on tape and his name was called by CSS's announcers. Yet, all we hear is defending the guy and denying it happened. Wasn't our game, but still I wonder how many times over the years this has happened with them, this guy...or any school with an alumni? Like you said they "missed the point" of the chance of questionable calls occuring, and trusting that the officials are not biased. How much clearer can it get? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlcoasPaintedBridge Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 Ask a William Blount fan this question....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STARSNBARS Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 My answer two this qwestion iz yes....If and onlee if he asks tha visitin' teem two taik off thair helmets while'st that Red Rebull band plays that MHS alma tomater!!!!!!!....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigmoney128 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 NO Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
volfan5 Posted October 19, 2009 Report Share Posted October 19, 2009 I have brought this up for years in a rivalry game that we play. Referee's should never call the high school that they went to our there kids school. BOTTOM LINE. That leaves know confusion of any controversial calls. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LARRYBIRD33 Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 Ok. This topic came up on another thread. Should a referee work a game where the alma mater he played for and graduated from was participating? Here was my response on the other thread (I removed the school's name in an attempt to stay on topic and reduce defensive responses: Here goes my futal attempt to enlighten some folks. I don't know this referee, but if he graduated from (school name), and he is refereeing (school name) games, then there is a problem. I commend you for sticking up for this guy, but you "are" missing the point. I am as defensive as the next guy, but I try to see the big picture now and then. A great official would not put himself in those games. It is unfortunate that this has not been addressed before now. Believe it or not, despite fan's reactions to referees, there is a certain level of trust and respect that most people have for referees. Dual realtionships such as alumni, family, work, etc. destroys that trust and respect. Here are a couple of referee standards to keep in mind: Integrity Referees seek to promote integrity in the practice of refereeing. Referees are honest, fair, and respectful of others. Referees do no make statements that are false, misleading, or deceptive. Referees strive to be aware of their own belief systems, values, needs, and limitations and the effect of these on their work. To the extent feasible, they attempt to clarify for relevant parties, the role they are performing and to function appropriately in accordance with that role. Referees avoid improper and potentially harmful dual relationships. In many communities and situations, it may not be feasible or reasonable for Referees to avoid social or other nonprofessional contacts with athletes and coaches and other participants. Referees must always be sensitive to the potentially harmful effects of other contacts on their work and on those persons with whom they deal. A referee refrains from entering into or promising another personal, professional, financial, or other relationship with such persons if it appears likely that such a relationship reasonable might impair the referee’s objectivity or otherwise interfere with the referee’s effective performance of his or her functions as a referee, or might harm or exploit the other party. Where ever feasible, a referee must refrain from taking on professional obligations when preexisting relationship would create a risk of such harm. WHEN FEASIBLE, NO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
imablustar Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 In some regards, a judge and referee has the same responsibilities, and when there's a possible conflict of interest the referee or better yet TSSAA, should make sure nothing questionable happens to reflect favortism for or against a particular team. Just as TSSAA expects the schools and players to meet certain standards to qualify in playing regular and playoff games, we the public,players and coaches should expect the highest of standards from our referees. and TSSAA should make sure with all confidence that this standard is always being met. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PiRaTe._.MiKe Posted October 20, 2009 Report Share Posted October 20, 2009 If the ref has to work his alma mater, then at least only put him on the sideline or something. Or keep the clock. Never should he be one in the middle of the field. Too many conflict of interests. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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