Sullivan South/Cleveland Playoff issue

[raiderfan25]

Charlie Cleveland's schedule non district was Maryville, Catholic which struggled in a really tough district, Chatt Central who is weak, and Red Bank who is normally strong. Walker Valley's was Chatt. Central, Hixson weak II, Polk who they lost to, and East Ridge weak II. So you tell me who played the cupcakes more

[airstrip1]

Good post Voice...this should not be all that complicated when you consider that only a handful of teams are in this bucket to begin with. And if its that complcated after all these years, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to conclude it needs to be changed. As for seeing the topic on this site, the TSSAA has stated it doesn't read the paper or view this site, listen to coaches or parents. For didn't you know, they are already everything they ever ought to be.

 

What is really so disturbing here however is the lack of candor in what really happened with all this that has so affected so many people. Who sets the brackets and what are the steps to insure accuracy or is the potential adverse effect to some 300+ familes just not that important? Both South and Cleveland deserve a better explanation as to how all this could have come about just as the TSSAA would have demanded the same. This organization does have good people but its arrogance is quite noteworthy.

[csemary]

It is my understanding that the TSSAA has talked with both schools and I am sure Cleveland and Sullivan coaches asked questions and were given answers. Here is a link to the press release from the TSSAA which is posted on CoachT.com

 

http://www.coacht.com/tennessee/article.cfm?id=395774

[crawdad]

Good post Voice...this should not be all that complicated when you consider that only a handful of teams are in this bucket to begin with. And if its that complcated after all these years, it doesn't take a brain surgeon to conclude it needs to be changed. As for seeing the topic on this site, the TSSAA has stated it doesn't read the paper or view this site, listen to coaches or parents. For didn't you know, they are already everything they ever ought to be.

 

What is really so disturbing here however is the lack of candor in what really happened with all this that has so affected so many people. Who sets the brackets and what are the steps to insure accuracy or is the potential adverse effect to some 300+ familes just not that important? Both South and Cleveland deserve a better explanation as to how all this could have come about just as the TSSAA would have demanded the same. This organization does have good people but its arrogance is quite noteworthy.

Attorneys could erode that arrogance a bit.

[csemary]

Charlie Cleveland's schedule non district was Maryville, Catholic which struggled in a really tough district, Chatt Central who is weak, and Red Bank who is normally strong. Walker Valley's was Chatt. Central, Hixson w

weak II, Polk who they lost to, and East Ridge weak II. So you tell me who played the cupcakes more

Hixson was 7-3 not too shabby and Walker Valley didn't play Chatt Central.

[csemary]

Before the season starts every football team in the state knew or should have know what what the format was to make the playoffs. Just like in the NCAA basketball tournament there is or will at times be teams who thought the should make it in get left out for various reasons. Until the format for qualifying for the TSSAA playoffs are changed then we just have to live with it. I do agree the thing that is hard to swallow is not getting it right before releasing the brackets. Oh well we all make mistakes but it is best to move on and learn from them instead of whining about it.

[jhilts]

I understand there could be mistakes made. However hard it is to believe in this case.

 

I also understand that when you are wrong and it effects someone adversely, much less hundreds of people, you man up and Apologize.

 

I guess they made a another mistake and left that out of their press release.

[CheckerboardEndzone]

All Cleveland had to do is beat Rhea.. Yeah you beat WV, but WV beat Rhea Co... If you think Cleveland should be in over WV, then maybe Rhea should be in over Cleveland..

It's not about any 1 game..when it comes to seeding.

And a Cleveland fan made trhe comment that CHS needed to schedule more cupcakes, the problem is you did schedule more cupcakes, that's why you lost the tiebreaker to WV.

I pull for the Bradley Co teams to be succesful, but CHS has no one to blame but themselves, try keeping the penalties in single digits and beat Rhea Co.

 

No doubt, Cleveland should have taken care of business Friday and this wouldn't have been an issue (or would it? We are dealing with TSSAA here)

 

With your logic, Charlie, Cleveland beat Ooltewah who beat Walker Valley...so Cleveland should be in.

 

Just another indicator that the system is filled with flaws and the TSSAA is simply too arrogant to review their own mess since they're the ones who created it. In industry leadership, this is called the "NIH" syndrome. Stands for "not invented here". If we didn't think it up, it can't possibly be better than what we already did. Yes, this sums up TSSAA quite nicely.

[Hoganknows]

Post # 63 by Wes and #70 by HTV sums the whole problem with this flawed playoff system that somehow has got voted in again for 4 more years. Makes you wonder why we elected or appoint the ones running this organization and board.

Also, like to ask why we had the AAA Volleyball Finals on a Football Friday Night-only in the TSSAA I guess, great planning!

[Indian]

This was a bad mistake but as was said, the least disruptive resolution was to have Sullivan South travel to Columbia. Coaches that had already swapped film or were on the road to do so shouldn't be asked to do that again. As for Cleveland, simple, don't lose to Rhea.

[tnmustang01]

polk a cup cake .Why does cleveland not play them.I been told Polk wants to play Cleveland but has been told no.It true if Cleveland could keep the fouls to under a hundred then they could have won I think 3 more games but when you have 185 yards against Bradley and over 100 in other games .i LIKE Coach Crawford and I think he going to make Cleveland a powerful team but he going to have to get the players to play the game . Coach Ryan has told the Mustangs to play and keep your mouth shut and play like you been there or they would be on the sideline or sitting in the stands.I think the tennessee schools need to get together and tell the tssaa to get their crap together. this has been going on for a long time and will be going on till the schools say something.

[ET1979]

TSSAA will pay Sullivan South's expenses to Columbia and any game hereafter should they pull the first-round upset. I was at South on Friday and AD Richardson and head coach Haynie were not aware of the by-law situation with 10 and/or 11 games. In fact the quote was "Enka faces a really good team in T.C. Roberson and if they lose that hurts us on the tie-breaker and we would have a tough time getting." There were no motions in place beforehand. AD Richardson told me this afternoon someone not even associated with the school call their attention to the error. With all that said, the simplest solution and would have affected just one more team would be to make South the 8th seed in Quadrant 1 and move Knox Central, the orginal 8 seed in Quadrant 1 into Cleveland's No. 8 spot in Quadrant 2. Central may not geographically next in line to move to Quadrant 2 but it's simpler than blowing up the entire bracket by moving Powell or Knox West.

So your solution is to screw Knox Central who should be the 7 in Quad 1. How is that a better fix for anyone other than Sullivan South?