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[blazer1set]

Science Hill is a basketball school. Johnson City is a basketball town. Building a new stadium, building a new field house for the high school, bringing back ETSU football is not going to make Johnson City a football town. There are a handful of movers and shakers that are trying to force the issue and they've been successful with that. Everybody has forgot why ETSU football was killed in the first place. No interest. Now their going to spend millions of dollars trying to kick start a football program that the community will not support. At first they will bring in the fans, probably give out free tickets all over town, then show on sportscast packed full stadiums, losing thousands of dollars and putting up fake images of success. After 5 years things will be back the same way they were before. No fans, team with losing record, coach just left, brand new stadium 3/4 empty people razing H E double L about all the tax money they just wasted.

  So the same with Science Hill. Brand new stadium, brand new field house, brand new coach that's now been there long enough to turn the program in one of the best in the state. Science Hill, the largest school in upper east Tennessee, as has been said on coach t many times, the biggest selection of athletes in upper east Tennessee year in and year out. Everybody thinks they have turned some kind of corner just because the beat DB. Last year, Siegel - 64 SH - 38, Brentwood Academy - 45 SH - 0, and if I had lost my last game 63-20 to Sevier Co. I wouldn't think I had turned a corner. Not bashing just telling you the truth.

You make some good points, but for something to chew on here is how Science Hill has looked the last 10 years.    Maybe Carter isn't the answer but the records during his tenure would seem to indicate that the program is headed in the right direction.

 

With Carter:

2013 9-3

2012 9-2

2011 8-4

2010 6-5

Before Carter:

2009 4-6

2008 7-4

2007 3-7

2006 6-5

2005 7-4

2004 4-6

 

[WaCoJaCo]

You make some good points, but for something to chew on here is how Science Hill has looked the last 10 years.    Maybe Carter isn't the answer but the records during his tenure would seem to indicate that the program is headed in the right direction.

 

With Carter:

2013 9-3

2012 9-2

2011 8-4

2010 6-5

Before Carter:

2009 4-6

2008 7-4

2007 3-7

2006 6-5

2005 7-4

2004 4-6

 

 

Nothing jumps out at me there. No wins for Carter outside of northeast Tennessee. But I do think Carter was a upgrade from the previous coach. It's hard to tell because it's obvious Science Hill has had better players the past two years than they have had in 15 years. And I can't tell how much of the success in 2012 was due to coaching or that super quarterback they had. And the way they lost to Sevier Co. in the playoff game last year has me wondering, was it that they thought since they beat DB nothing else mattered or was that a poor job of preparing your team for a game. I just know that the coaching staff had no clue at all on how to slow down Sevier Co........... Coaching? No corner has been turned yet.

[dbFAN91]

You make some good points, but for something to chew on here is how Science Hill has looked the last 10 years.    Maybe Carter isn't the answer but the records during his tenure would seem to indicate that the program is headed in the right direction.

 

With Carter:

2013 9-3

2012 9-2

2011 8-4

2010 6-5Before Carter:

2009 4-6

2008 7-4

2007 3-7

2006 6-5

2005 7-4

2004 4-6

 

 

 

I think someone has a man crush on Carter. ROLL TRIBE!!!!!

[Governm]

Looks to me like Science Hill has been a pretty solid team and has gotten better under Carter. I was at the SH/OR playoff game in '12 and I thought their QB was a stud. If Hall for OR hadn't had a monster game like he did SH would have beat them, And OR had a pretty dang good team that year. I think that win against DB last year was huge for them considering they hadn't beat DB in almost 2 decades..... It's always good to end a streak like that and get the monkey off your back.... It had to do wonders for the teams psyche going forward.

Edited July 31, 2014 by Governors91

[SweetScience]

Looks to me like Science Hill has been a pretty solid team and has gotten better under Carter. I was at the SH/OR playoff game in '12 and I thought their QB was a stud. If Hall for OR hadn't had a monster game like he did SH would have beat them, And OR had a pretty dang good team that year. I think that win against DB last year was huge for them considering they hadn't beat DB in almost 2 decades..... It's always good to end a streak like that and get the monkey off your back.... It had to do wonders for the teams psyche going forward.

True, Hall had a great game that game. But, on the other hand if Hayes hadn't of been there for SH they wouldn't have even been in that game. He almost singlehandedly beat us himself. Thankfully we had more than just Hall that game although he did great Matthew Moore had a loooong KO return that killed SH. They were tough that year and that was a great game. Reed Hayes was awesome for SH.

[WaCoJaCo]

Looks to me like Science Hill has been a pretty solid team and has gotten better under Carter. I was at the SH/OR playoff game in '12 and I thought their QB was a stud. If Hall for OR hadn't had a monster game like he did SH would have beat them, And OR had a pretty dang good team that year. I think that win against DB last year was huge for them considering they hadn't beat DB in almost 2 decades..... It's always good to end a streak like that and get the monkey off your back.... It had to do wonders for the teams psyche going forward.

 

Well it did do something to their "psyche" going forward because they lost their next game to Sevier Co. 63-20. A team that was about equal to DB. Carter might turn them in to a state power but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he will. Maybe if he can beat DB 3 out of the next 5 and win 2 or 3 playoff games a year I'll then say he has turned the corner.

[jhilts]

Nothing jumps out at me there. No wins for Carter outside of northeast Tennessee. But I do think Carter was a upgrade from the previous coach. It's hard to tell because it's obvious Science Hill has had better players the past two years than they have had in 15 years. And I can't tell how much of the success in 2012 was due to coaching or that super quarterback they had. And the way they lost to Sevier Co. in the playoff game last year has me wondering, was it that they thought since they beat DB nothing else mattered or was that a poor job of preparing your team for a game. I just know that the coaching staff had no clue at all on how to slow down Sevier Co........... Coaching? No corner has been turned yet.

Ha! Nothing jumping out there? That"s some serious hate.

[jhilts]

Well it did do something to their "psyche" going forward because they lost their next game to Sevier Co. 63-20. A team that was about equal to DB. Carter might turn them in to a state power but I haven't seen anything yet that makes me think he will. Maybe if he can beat DB 3 out of the next 5 and win 2 or 3 playoff games a year I'll then say he has turned the corner.

I do believe Carter beat Farragut in the first round of the playoffs in the week after beating DB. SH made it to the second round. Not sure where DB played that week..... Oh..... Never Mind.

[WaCoJaCo]

Ha! Nothing jumping out there? That"s some serious hate.

 

.........are you drunk ?

[WaCoJaCo]

I do believe Carter beat Farragut in the first round of the playoffs in the week after beating DB. SH made it to the second round. Not sure where DB played that week..... Oh..... Never Mind.

 

Boy you really got me there! I don't know what I was thinking. I guess Science Hill really has turned the corner, Carter is a better coach than Clark, and Science Hill has a better football program than DB. You just proved that. And after all getting beat 63-20 is not nearly as bad as getting beat 44-0. Nothing is worse as a great big ole goose egg,

[blazer1set]

I do believe Carter beat Farragut in the first round of the playoffs in the week after beating DB. SH made it to the second round. Not sure where DB played that week..... Oh..... Never Mind.

 

jhilts - just a word of warning my friend, you really hit a nerve with that comment, a lot of the DB fans on this board are very sensitive to the "one-and-done" comments (referring to DB running the table during the season and then choking during the 1st round of the playoffs).    So be prepared to get blasted.   BTW, DB has actually gotten to the 2nd round more times than not, although last year was an exception, as you said.      I agree with you on SH too, the record clearly indicates they are going the right direction.    Is that because of Carter?    Maybe a special batch of athletes who happen to play at the same time?     The new stadium?     Hard to say, but for sure the DB/SH game this year is going to generate a lot of interest.

[WaCoJaCo]

jhilts - just a word of warning my friend, you really hit a nerve with that comment, a lot of the DB fans on this board are very sensitive to the "one-and-done" comments (referring to DB running the table during the season and then choking during the 1st round of the playoffs).    So be prepared to get blasted.   BTW, DB has actually gotten to the 2nd round more times than not, although last year was an exception, as you said.      I agree with you on SH too, the record clearly indicates they are going the right direction.    Is that because of Carter?    Maybe a special batch of athletes who happen to play at the same time?     The new stadium?     Hard to say, but for sure the DB/SH game this year is going to generate a lot of interest.

 

Hay blazer, I started a Science Hill thread for you and jhilts.  So you can go over there and smootch & kiss all over the Toppers. If that doesn't work then you two should just get a room. 

 

Your welcome