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Rosser is not coming to Maryville as an assistant, or HFC for that matter. If this were a wide-open search then I would love for Rosser or any other minority candidate to be in the running, but this isn't a wide-open search.

I never said he was. There was some talk about him a week or so ago. Didn't come from me, Tad started this mess.
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Why would a black man who coached at Maryville or any other predominately white community be an Uncle Tom ? Does a black man need to coach at a mostly black inner city school to be accepted by the black community ?

 

 

 

Compton hung up his cleats cause i could careless who is the head coach at Maryville or what you guys think of Maryville off season, i just care about Maryville wins and losses. This is a very interesting topic. Alot of blacks before being lynch last thing they saw was a confederate flag and was called the N word.

 

Not everyone that has a confederate flag represent racism but when we see a whites holding that flag, we don't have time to decipher their meaning of it. But in all the flag does represent some type of racism.

 

Alot of whites can't understand why blacks get to use the N word, and they can't. Yall say it to be funny, derogatory and we deem it very offensive. We replace the letters and made it endearing, made it into colloquial language, basically just saying hi, so it's not offensive when we use it amongst one another. Theirs alot of whites get by saying that word cause they use it the same form as us. If i rub a woman leg and she throws her drink on me and seconds later another guy does the same thing but she winks at him, then my action was offensive. We can't tell another race or sexuality what should or should not be offensive.

 

This isn't a knock on any of you guys but yall need to hang around more diversity to understand different cultures. I'll be honest that was my 1 hesitant coming to a Maryville game sitting on the home side, how i would be accepted cause i don't look and talk like most of the rebels fans.

 

A black man taking the head coach position at Maryville, I'm not saying he's thinks in a Uncle Tom way, but knowing that school represents that flag many blacks would view that person as an Uncle Tom. And BlackHavenSenator, Kwc and who else can all attest there is nothing more offensive to a black person than what we consider an Uncle Tom.

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There's talk that Rosser might come to Maryville as an assistant. Then it was posted that a black man wouldn't coach at Maryville because of the flag (we have a black coach)

 

its a ridiculus subject matter and a crutch...lets play football......may be time for the popo to transfer this post along to its respected space that T has set up for those who filll the need....http://www.coacht.com/boards/index.php/forum/37-open-discussion/

 

...better change your pic...never thought of it on here as anything other than being part of Maryville Football unti sumone cried foul

 

Booger just sayin  :mrgreen:

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he would be considered an Uncle Tom cause of the flag that represents Maryville. A black man can coach William Blount and nothing would be said. In our view 1 school represents racism the other doesn't.

We have a black coach lol last year we had two!! You need to back up and punt or better yet forget you Coacht password lol
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Thanks KWC for your insight. For many it is not meant that way but I can agree with how it can be perceived. From now on I think I'll take your point of view toward this topic.

Inthegap:

 

Thanks for receiving my post in the spirit in which it was given. I just wanted to communicate why the rebel flag has such negative connotations attached to it from my perspective.

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he would be considered an Uncle Tom cause of the flag that represents Maryville. A black man can coach William Blount and nothing would be said. In our view 1 school represents racism the other doesn't.

Maryville represents racism??????? they don't even use the flag anymore-c'mon man!!!

 

according to dictionary.com a rebel is:

1. a person who refuses allegiance to, resists, or rises in arms against the government or ruler of his or her country. 2. a person who resists any authority, control, or tradition.

 

me personally i like #2 best-it fits my personality

 

i graduated from murvil in 1985................and i'm not racist-i grew up hanging out with black folks, used to sneak over to the Alcoa dances when i was a kid cause they had the best music(Planet Rock!!!), got black folks as friends,had friends in the army that were black & even some puerto ricans, first high school coaching gig i had was at AE, first friend i made in boone was a black dude, and i work for a black principal-the best principal i've ever had!!!!!

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Maryville represents racism??????? they don't even use the flag anymore-c'mon man!!!

 

according to dictionary.com a rebel is:

1. a person who refuses allegiance to, resists, or rises in arms against the government or ruler of his or her country. 2. a person who resists any authority, control, or tradition.

 

me personally i like #2 best-it fits my personality

 

i graduated from murvil in 1985................and i'm not racist-i grew up hanging out with black folks, used to sneak over to the Alcoa dances when i was a kid cause they had the best music(Planet Rock!!!), got black folks as friends,had friends in the army that were black & even some puerto ricans, first high school coaching gig i had was at AE, first friend i made in boone was a black dude, and i work for a black principal-the best principal i've ever had!!!!!

#2 definitely describes you Spank! Merry Christmas Buddy!! Go Red Rebels
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I appreciate everyone keeping things civil to this point. I think there is a great dialog to be had here, so I'd like to add to the discussion. I hope others will follow and continue to keep things civil.

 

I'm white, I was born and raised in east TN, although neither of my parents are from the south; my dad grew up in central Ohio, while my mom was a USAF "brat" (born in the UK, grew up in western Ontario and NW Ohio). I'm a "to each his own" kind of guy, so I understand that the aforementioned flag means something very different to a lot of folks. I'm in my mid-30s, and I'll admit that I continue to struggle with that flag and what it represents (to me). However, there's another aspect of this debate that rarely gets brought up, and I think it deserves to be pointed out.

 

Seeing people in east TN defend that flag as part of their "heritage" is difficult for me to stomach, as a history buff. I love east TN, and I am proud to call it my home, but if we are specifically defending that flag as part of this region's heritage, then we are denying the proven fact that east Tennesseans were overwhelmingly sympathetic to the Union cause during the Civil War; 70% of east TN (90+% in many rural counties) opposed the secession ordinance, compared to the ~86% of middle/west TN voters who favored secession from the Union. Heck, East TN came within a whisker of pulling a West VA in 1861; if not for the state legislature rejecting the proposal (which shouldn't come as a surprise, since middle/west representation supported the Confederacy), it likely would have happened.

 

150 years later, this gets lost on many East Tennesseans, and I'm not sure why. I'm proud of the fact that this region stood against secession during the Civil War, yet I can't understand why so many folks proudly sport the flag that their great-great grandparents stood against, and many risked their lives to take that stance. I guess my hope is that if we're really going to celebrate and honor our region's heritage, we probably should get our story straight. Just some food for thought.

The rebel flag has come to be widely seen as a symbol of southern pride and culture. As I said earlier, symbols only have meaning if we attach meaning to them. Furthermore, those meanings can change. The state of Tennessee is a southern state and is more culturally aligned with the other southern states than the rest of the country. And yes, a lot of Tennesseans were against secession but when push came to shove the state sided with the other southern states. It cannot be denied that the flag has been used by certain people and movements for evil purposes. It also cannot be denied that the flag also has a very positive meaning for many people. I've known a few black people who even like it. Edited by Governors91
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The next coach better be a good one,nomatter what his race.Wow,some great takes on race here however.Osunut you hit it on the head about this part of the state during the war in the 1860's.My family was split for different reasons,none that involved slavery.One of my great  grand dads was killed for not showing the rebs where to cross the local river.Others didn't like the Northern boys coming into our area and then some didn't like either side !  Maybe one of these days it will be different and we can all notice others for being different in many ways including color,but we will all be able to accept those differences and move on.I grew up in the 60's and 70's.At first,I was the " white boy " playing ball at the neighborhood center,but when we got to highschool, we were all best of friends.I have friends from every race and I can't stand people from every race. The cool thing to me is race has zero to do with my friends or people I don't like.I'm equal if you treat me or mine good or bad,I'll give it back just the same.

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