Fayetteville to forfeit 6 wins

[Crock1615]

3 minutes ago, PullinGuard said:

Still left with the following problem. 

Does this all mean that any/all transfer to Tullahoma, or any school without buses are automatically ineligible?  No territory whatsoever due to buses?

Does it also mean that Fayetteville proper is outside the territory of LCHS?  For 30 years, there was no other school whatsoever to attend.  Are you saying that it's sensible that all transfers who moved to Fayetteville from 1979 until FHS opened should have been ineligible?  No buses pick up for LCHS inside Fayetteville.

The two examples above have never, ever been treated the way this case has been.  Why?

tullahoma territory is the city limits. 

 

when fayetteville city schools added the high school grades it "claimed" that territory from the county.  

 

prior to 2010 did high school students who lived in fayetteville ride buses to lchs?

I don't know for a fact how lchs did it, but the way that most system would handle this is all students in the city would be bused to one location from their various bus routes (presumable the middle school) and then they would all be bussed to the high school at the same time.

 

on a side note:

Here in west tennessee, almost every city in gibson county has its own school district and then there is a gibson county district.    There are 5 separate districts in the county each with its own territory.  

[Mustang1969]

10 minutes ago, PullinGuard said:

Still left with the following problem. 

Does this all mean that any/all transfer to Tullahoma, or any school without buses are automatically ineligible?  No territory whatsoever due to buses?

Does it also mean that Fayetteville proper is outside the territory of LCHS?  For 30 years, there was no other school whatsoever to attend.  Are you saying that it's sensible that all transfers who moved to Fayetteville from 1979 until FHS opened should have been ineligible at the only school within 30 miles due to the bus routes?  No buses pick up for LCHS inside Fayetteville.

The two examples above have never, ever been treated the way this case has been.  Why?

Does Fayetteville city schools require that a student outside their city limits pay some type of fee to attend school there? Do they collect city taxes to fund their school?

[PullinGuard]

5 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

If system-wide is Fayetteville's defense then they should forgo the restraining order and accept their fate.   

I don't speak for Fayetteville.  Told you ealier that I have no association and therefore obviously no  knowledge of their position. 

 

First question I'd ask is on what basis did Childress rule the kid eligible.  One would think the Director would be well versed in this. 

Edited October 30, 2019 by PullinGuard

[PullinGuard]

3 minutes ago, Mustang1969 said:

Does Fayetteville city schools require that a student outside their city limits pay some type of fee to attend school there? Do they collect city taxes to fund their school?

I don't know.  I'm sure they collect taxes to pay for the school.  No idea about tuition, etc. 

[Southtowner]

4 minutes ago, PullinGuard said:

I don't speak for Fayetteville.  Told you ealier that I have no association and therefore obviously no  knowledge of their position. 

 

First question I'd ask is on what basis did Childress rule the kid eligible.  One would think the Director would be well versed in this. 

Yes.  I realize you don't speak for Fayetteville.   And I don't speak for the TSSAA.  I was just putting it out there. 

 

[Yeti]

9 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

If system-wide is Fayetteville's defense then they should forgo the restraining order and accept their fate.   

+1

[Crock1615]

I have one question that is a little off topic from the court discussion but still related:

I have not seen fayetteville play this season or last season.

last season fayetteville was 1-9 with several lopsided loses.  This year they are 9-0.    Did the kid in question make that big of a difference?  or were they going to be good this year anyway?

Edited October 30, 2019 by Crock1615

[Southtowner]

10 minutes ago, PullinGuard said:

I don't speak for Fayetteville.  Told you ealier that I have no association and therefore obviously no  knowledge of their position. 

 

First question I'd ask is on what basis did Childress rule the kid eligible.  One would think the Director would be well versed in this. 

Only thing I can hypothesize is 'Chilly' went on the information that was provided by the school, that the bona fide change of address was inside Fayetteville's territory.   Upon further review it is not.

Edited October 30, 2019 by Southtowner

[LetMeHearYA]

13 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

20. Q. What is meant by the term “system-wide” public school in the definition of “territory” as defined in the Definitions? A. A system-wide public school is a school without geographic zones or bus routes that draws students throughout the school system. Examples of system-wide public schools are, but not limited to: Chattanooga School for the Arts & Sciences, Martin Luther King, the magnet portion of Liberty Technology High School, etc.   

 

If this is the definition, I agree with you, they are screwed. 

Can someone tell me if I am wrong on this. Of they would have went ahead with the appeal, that appeal would have been heard by a board made up from personal from the member schools. 1 representatives from each region correct? Basically, a panel of your peers?

[PullinGuard]

6 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

Yes.  I realize you don't speak for Fayetteville.   And I don't speak for the TSSAA.  I was just putting it out there. 

 

Other issue is that it obviously should have never come to this.  All of the people in charge were in charge (or at least involved) when FHS came into existence.  I can't believe all of this ground wasn't covered at that time.  Yet here we are, 9 years later and the TSSAA makes two opposite decisions in a 6 week period. 

I don't understand why it seemingly took the TSSAA 9+ years to figure out their own position on the matter.

 

Where did you find the 'system-wide' Question/Answer?  More info is always better.  Thx.

Edited October 30, 2019 by PullinGuard

[Southtowner]

1 minute ago, Crock1615 said:

I have one question that is a little off topic from the court discussion but still related:

I have not seen fayetteville play this season or last season.

last season fayetteville was 1-9 with several lopsided loses.  This year they are 9-0.    Did the kid in question make that big of a difference?  or were they going to be good this year anyway?

He was their starting QB.  I have seen them play.  And it is of my honest unbiased opinion Fayetteville would be undefeated without him.   The student athlete in question has been hobbled all year after injury in the 1st half of the 1st game vs Jasper.

[PullinGuard]

Just now, Southtowner said:

He was their starting QB.  I have seen them play.  And it is of my honest unbiased opinion Fayetteville would be undefeated without him.   The student athlete in question has been hobbled all year after injury in the 1st half of the 1st game vs Jasper.

Where did you find the 'system-wide' definition?  Would like to dig around for more info.  Thx