Rerun92 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 30 minutes ago, FilmCzar said: Im talking about Lamar. Can't get over the hump. I don't get it. You're singing Cumming's praises, took him 8 seasons. New coach has 3 or 4 seasons and you're bad mouthing him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edwardblake Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 1 minute ago, Knoxemdown said: I don't get it. You're singing Cumming's praises, took him 8 seasons. New coach has 3 or 4 seasons and you're bad mouthing him. I'm a huge Lamar Brown fan and I think he and his staff do a great job. The Alcoa game regardless of the officiating was proof of that, they came out and hit them in the mouth. I think the Czar and a few others here are strictly in the Cummings camp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czar Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 7 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said: I don't get it. You're singing Cumming's praises, took him 8 seasons. New coach has 3 or 4 seasons and you're bad mouthing him. early to mid 2000's 4A Region was a completely different ballgame than current region situation that West is currently in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thefox Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 25 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said: I don't get it. You're singing Cumming's praises, took him 8 seasons. New coach has 3 or 4 seasons and you're bad mouthing him. I retired to Farragut in 2010 and watched a lot of West from there on. I loved their stingy style of defense but to me after Cummings's run it was a just add water program. More than a foundation had been laid. They were consistently whipping people. I've got respect for what they've done since Lamar got there but right now West is 14 points away from being 3-4. They've won some tight games over three teams that don't have the athletes the West zone has. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 36 minutes ago, thefox said: I retired to Farragut in 2010 and watched a lot of West from there on. I loved their stingy style of defense but to me after Cummings's run it was a just add water program. More than a foundation had been laid. They were consistently whipping people. I've got respect for what they've done since Lamar got there but right now West is 14 points away from being 3-4. They've won some tight games over three teams that don't have the athletes the West zone has. You think the region was tougher then than now? Let's look at the state finals since. I think we'd see the 3/4 5a Regions are more competitive now if we're being truthful. Maryville moved to 6a in 2009. In the list below I'll put when someone from Region 3 or 4 made the finals or where champion. 2009- none (And remember Maryville moved to 6a this year) 2010- none 2011- Powell-Finalist 2012- None 2013- West -Finalist 2014- West champion 2015- Sevier County- Finalist 2016- Farragut- Champion 2017- Catholic- Champion 2018- Central- Champion 2019 - Central- Champion 2020- OR- Finalist West didn't battle through powerhouses to win in 2014. There was no dominant program after Maryville left. Since West won in 2015 5/7 champions have come from the two knoxvile 5a regions. It's clearly more competitive now. Edited October 6, 2021 by Knoxemdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osunut2 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said: You think the region was tougher then than now? Let's look at the state finals since. I think we'd see the 3/4 5a Regions are more competitive now if we're being truthful. Maryville moved to 6a in 2009. In the list below I'll put when someone from Region 3 or 4 made the finals or where champion. 2009- none (And remember Maryville moved to 6a this year) 2010- none 2011- Powell-Finalist 2012- None 2013- West -Finalist 2014- West champion 2015- Sevier County- Finalist 2016- Farragut- Champion 2017- Catholic- Champion 2018- Central- Champion 2019 - Central- Champion 2020- OR- Finalist West didn't battle through powerhouses to win in 2014. There was no dominant program after Maryville left. Since West won in 2015 5/7 champions have come from the two knoxvile 5a regions. It's clearly more competitive now. One thing to point out, the system was a bit different prior to 2015. West was in the same district as Maryville, Farragut, and Catholic until then. Edited October 6, 2021 by osunut2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 15 minutes ago, osunut2 said: One thing to point out, the system was a bit different prior to 2015. West was in the same district as Maryville, Farragut, and Catholic until then. No. Maryville went 6a in 2009. Farragut was 5a from 2014-2016 and went 6a again in 20017. Catholic went Division II in 2019. Edited October 6, 2021 by Knoxemdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said: No. Maryville went 6a in 2009. Farragut went 6a in 20017. Catholic went Division II in 2019. You are correct of when these schools went to the classifications but districts were made up of 5a/6a teams and split when play-off time came around during that span (The Z plan). 2011 West district was made up of Maryville, Farragut, Williams Blount, LC, Heritage, Catholic, and Bearden. I coached in this conference during the time and LC being number #4 in the district went to the #1 seed and defending 5a State Champs in Columbia and beat them in round 1 beat Centennial the following week and was put out in the Quarter's by Mobley and Powell by 8 points Knox Catholic also bounced from 5a to 4a back to 5a before going completely private in 2019. Edited October 6, 2021 by Swipes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 4 minutes ago, Swipes said: You are correct of when these schools went to the classifications but districts were made up of 5a/6a teams and split when play-off time came around during that span (The Z plan). 2011 West district was made up of Maryville, Farragut, Williams Blount, LC, Heritage, Catholic, and Bearden. I coached in this conference during the time and LC being number #4 in the district went to the #1 seed and defending 5a State Champs in Columbia and beat them in round 1 beat Centennial the following week and was put out in the Quarter's by Mobley and Powell by 8 points I understand and do remember the z plan. I didn't realize that's what he was referenceing. I'd still argue that has very litle impact on the postseason though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rerun92 Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 6 minutes ago, Swipes said: You are correct of when these schools went to the classifications but districts were made up of 5a/6a teams and split when play-off time came around during that span (The Z plan). 2011 West district was made up of Maryville, Farragut, Williams Blount, LC, Heritage, Catholic, and Bearden. I coached in this conference during the time and LC being number #4 in the district went to the #1 seed and defending 5a State Champs in Columbia and beat them in round 1 beat Centennial the following week and was put out in the Quarter's by Mobley and Powell by 8 points Knox Catholic also bounced from 5a to 4a back to 5a before going completely private in 2019. I understand and do remember the z plan. I didn't realize that's what he was referenceing. I'd still argue that has very litle impact on the postseason though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swipes Posted October 6, 2021 Report Share Posted October 6, 2021 8 minutes ago, Knoxemdown said: I understand and do remember the z plan. I didn't realize that's what he was referenceing. I'd still argue that has very litle impact on the postseason though. My comment was to you replying No to osunut2 that Maryville, Farragut, and Catholic weren't in the same district as West when in fact they were since it was set up differently during that time frame. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheCommissioner Posted October 7, 2021 Report Share Posted October 7, 2021 On 10/2/2021 at 7:51 PM, RollRed said: You tell me troll. We’re good over here. Lost out running back play1. And our best receiver was out and still had a good game. Just gotta get healthy and fix a few things. Was your WR for injury, COVID OR disciplinary ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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