expect the unexpected Posted April 12, 2005 Report Share Posted April 12, 2005 THE BEST RUNNING BACK IN THE STATE IS MIKE LIGON OUT OF NORTHEAST HIGH SCHOOL HES BENCHING 295LBS SQUATING 505LBS AND DEADLIFTING 245LBS AND HE IS A PUNISHER SO BE LOOKING I MEAN HE WILL BE LOOKING FOR YOU. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC4life Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Spencer Gulmire-OR 1564yds 167att 9.4ypc 19TD Roger Herndon Greenbrier 335att 2268yds 32TD Jake Nunley Coffee Co. 249att 2149yds 18TD Gaston Miller Riverdale 210att 2104ydsyds 29TD Bobby Martin Fairview 242att 1871yds 26TD Dustin Lindsey- Alcoa 1377yds 163att 8.4ypc 28TD Chris Wooden DCA 217att 1728yds 25TD Josh McMurray Page 226att 1706yds 20TD Cedric Wilkerson Northwest 259att 1663yds 21TD Ross Coffee Davidson Acad. 235att 1649yds 21TD Derrian Waters Franklin 239att 1534yds 14TD Chris Shiverdecker- Jefferson Co 1726yds 249att 6.9ypc 21TD Special thanks to Knoxnews.com Tennessean.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loveforthegame01 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I believe those are Gulmire's regular season stats. I think he finished with about 2,100 yards if im not mistaken. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC4life Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I believe those are Gulmire's regular season stats. I think he finished with about 2,100 yards if im not mistaken. 825645261[/snapback] When comparing stats, post season stats don`t count. No one keeps them so there is no way to look them up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankTalk Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 (edited) Guess I have been doing it wrong for 16 years, but when keeping stats, I do it for the entire season. If that includes playoffs - then it includes playoffs. Spencer finished with 2,058 last year if I am not mistaken. Look at his attempts and it was evident that he was done by halftime in many of those games. Lot of good running backs in 5A, no doubt about that. Edited April 13, 2005 by TankTalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JC4life Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Guess I have been doing it wrong for 16 years, but when keeping stats, I do it for the entire season. If that includes playoffs - then it includes playoffs. Spencer finished with 2,058 last year if I am not mistaken. Look at his attempts and it was evident that he was done by halftime in many of those games. Lot of good running backs in 5A, no doubt about that. 825645330[/snapback] How is that fair to players who's team doesn`t make the playoff? The Mr. Football, All-State, All-Region, All American awards are based on regular season stats, state records are also based on regular season stats. You can`t compare players who don`t have the same number of games in a season. An extra 5 games can help the player that reaches that 5th game, but what about the player who only plays 3 or 4 games in the post season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiggieEarl01 Posted April 13, 2005 Author Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 How is that fair to players who's team doesn`t make the playoff? The Mr. Football, All-State, All-Region, All American awards are based on regular season stats, state records are also based on regular season stats. You can`t compare players who don`t have the same number of games in a season. An extra 5 games can help the player that reaches that 5th game, but what about the player who only plays 3 or 4 games in the post season? 825645393[/snapback] YO DAWG, PLAYOFF STATS SHOULD TOTALED INTO THE SEASON STATS. DONT HATE IF GULMIRE GOT MORE YARDS THAN SHIVERDECKER. HOLLA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SergeantOwl22 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Back to the original topic...Shiverdecker is the best Junior back in the state. Gulmire is the only other one of the top returners i have watched play. Gulmire is great too, like JC4Life, i dont think that i can pick between the 2. If Gulmire has any edge, it is due to his experience in the big game. 825644387[/snapback] Ooltewah D. Caldwell check out ooltewahfootball.com for highlight video Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TankTalk Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 I don't think you compare that extra game or two. Total numbers have never really factored into my equasion anyway. Some running backs don't play as tough as competition as others. Should we penalize them as well? Perhaps. Look at yards per carry ... that's a pretty good way to compare 5A backs. I think it's stupid to not use playoff success in the Mr. Football award. Should a Mr. Football winner not also be good enough to lead their team deep into the playoffs? *shrug* I think so ... but that's just an opinion. I have seen many running backs on the high school level in Tennessee. There are some really good ones. I had the honor of seeing Spencer at the tail end of the season last year and he is as good on the high school level that I have ever seen. Of course, my work has been in East Tennessee for the most part, so I can't in good conscience come on here and say who is the best back in 5A this year. I wouldn't trade Gulmire for anyone, however. How is that fair to players who's team doesn`t make the playoff? The Mr. Football, All-State, All-Region, All American awards are based on regular season stats, state records are also based on regular season stats. You can`t compare players who don`t have the same number of games in a season. An extra 5 games can help the player that reaches that 5th game, but what about the player who only plays 3 or 4 games in the post season? 825645393[/snapback] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtVandalay Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 Hmmmmmmmm, I wonder if its coincidence that Jefferson Co's record greatly declined when Euverard took over. Seing how you Oakland fans think Euverard is a football god, you can have him back for all I care. Going 6-4 and missing the playoffs may be acceptable to Oakland but its not at Jefferson Co. BTW, Euverard was supported from the moment he got here, but he has yet to prove himself enough to be cherished. Its hard to cherished someone who drives away players which leads to bad records. FYI>>>> Jeff. County did not make the Playoffs last Season. Finishing 5th in Region 1 5A (Dobyns-Bennett, Cambell Co., Karns and Sevier County) represented Region1 5A in the Playoffs, Jeff Co. was excused. If this season is without last season's experienced O-Line, it will be a long year for the Patriots, no matter who is the Tailback, good back or bad back. Roll Tribe Roll Giddy Up!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
natural1 Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 THere are a lot of good 5A running backs just to add another name: Edward Sawyer from Hendersonville Had over 1700 in only 10 games and never touch the ball more than 12 times a game because of the Wing T offense, he will have some more help this year in the backfield and could really break out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nununu Posted April 13, 2005 Report Share Posted April 13, 2005 1. Gaston Miller2. Preston Brown 3. Dewayne Caldwell 4. Spencer Gulmire 5. Chris Shiverdecker 825644984[/snapback] I would have to put Preston Brown as the #1 back. He is bigger and stronger than Gaston Miller. Evidence of speed came at a track meet where Brown and Coker beat Miller by at least 10 yds. Last season, played with Coker, didn't carry the ball as much, but averaged over 7 tough yds/ carry. Will be featured back and a monster on offense and defense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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