nrgrizzlies Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 After the Wake game, VU fans are now even more upset with the coaching. Watching the 2 teams come out, there was no physical athletic difference in the 2 squads. They seemed to be about the same talent wise. Coaching is a different story. Look how the game turned out between 2 teams with similar talent. Take a look at the scout or rivals VU boards and see what the fans have to say about the coaching. (especially re: offense and special teams) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bighurt Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Saturday's attendance - 27,650 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kwc Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 How on earth does a 'recruiting' issue become a 'intergration' issue? Are you telling me that every recruit in TN is an african american or some other minority? ... I didn't think so. It has been covered in this thread. It's a combination of things ... but the main point is probably that Vandy is a program associated with losing football games. Winning solves that. Coaching is where that starts. Fla. St. was a perrenial dog until they got the right coach years ago. Duke was a powerhouse in football when a young Spurrier coached there. Stanford was getting top nocth recruits and were winning football games when Tyrone Whillingham built up that program. The university of Kentucky was a powerhouse when a young Bear Bryant built them up to respectability. Their program is building now. It's possible at an institution like Vandy as well. Win ... and the recruits will come. It has nothing to do with intergration, facilities, how many fans come to the game, etc., etc. Just WIN ... everything else will fall into place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Justsayin Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Academic standards too high? That's b.s. There are enough student-athletes who want a great education AND an opportunity to play in the NFL. Vandy can be competitive, if they stop considering their academic standards a limitation and start realizing it is an asset. Maybe when they change that attitude they'll be more successful at recruiting top student-athletes from in-state and around the country. Check out what I found on the 'net (I have better things to do than research this kind of stuff): Players drafted since 1997: Alabama 36 STANFORD 35 Auburn 34 Arkansas 27 South Carolina 22 Mississippi State 21 Mississippi 20 Kentucky 12 VANDERBILT 12 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nrgrizzlies Posted November 26, 2007 Report Share Posted November 26, 2007 Look at baseball over there. A new coach and a stadium upgrade - and in a few years VU went from a non-factor in baseball to maybe the best program (or at least close) in the nation. Look at guys such as Jack Armstrong Jr. who are going to play for Corbin. Coaching does matter. Bobby Johnson is not the answer. A surprising number of VU fans WERE against the hire in the first place. His contract is up in 2009 btw. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jackmoreblackson Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I don't think it has anything to do with segregation. Players will line Vanderbilt up to proven programs such as Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Flordia, and others. Players want to win. On an unrelated note, wouldn't it be something if Sonny pulled duo-sports AGAIN? "Sonny Gray hits the reciever in the end-zone, touchdown Commodores!" Well, that was fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bdog11 Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I don't think it has anything to do with segregation. Players will line Vanderbilt up to proven programs such as Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Flordia, and others. Players want to win. On an unrelated note, wouldn't it be something if Sonny pulled duo-sports AGAIN? "Sonny Gray hits the reciever in the end-zone, touchdown Commodores!" Well, that was fun. ha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FootballDoc Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 College athletics are year round and for Sonny to play both would be a feat. He no doubt has the talent but knowing the competitor he is he would want to give 100% in the sport and not just be average because of a lack of time to commit to one or the other. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Solomon Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I don't think it has anything to do with segregation. Players will line Vanderbilt up to proven programs such as Alabama, Georgia, Tennessee, Flordia, and others. Players want to win. On an unrelated note, wouldn't it be something if Sonny pulled duo-sports AGAIN? "Sonny Gray hits the reciever in the end-zone, touchdown Commodores!" Well, that was fun. I will be surprised if he throws one pitch for Vandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvillefootball Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 I will be surprised if he throws one pitch for Vandy. /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> Didn't he already commit for baseball? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTV Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 /huh.gif" style="vertical-align:middle" emoid=":huh:" border="0" alt="huh.gif" /> Didn't he already commit for baseball? Gray has already signed a baseball letter of intent with Vandy, but he will likely be a high draft pick in the Major League baseball draft in June. I think the poster is referring to the fact that Gray could be playing minor league baseball next year instead of attending Vandy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hvillefootball Posted November 27, 2007 Report Share Posted November 27, 2007 Gray has already signed a baseball letter of intent with Vandy, but he will likely be a high draft pick in the Major League baseball draft in June. I think the poster is referring to the fact that Gray could be playing minor league baseball next year instead of attending Vandy. Oh, my mistake. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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