TSSAA proposals on classification

[ksgovols]

Do away with the multipliers and base each classification on merit.

 

The headaches are the same however it's done. I do like playing the schools in your area that are your traditional rivals in every other sport practically except football.

[davidlimbaugh]

Do away with the multipliers and base each classification on merit.

 

The headaches are the same however it's done. I do like playing the schools in your area that are your traditional rivals in every other sport practically except football.

 

 

How does one measure 'merit' ???

[silverpie]

How does one measure 'merit' ???

 

 

British-style. Every so often, the top few teams in each class move up, the bottom few down.

[ksgovols]

How does one measure 'merit' ???

 

 

Personally, I'd use the coacht strength of schedule and power rankings as a guide. Get about 10 or 20 knowledgeable coaches representing West, Middle and East and throw out some opinions on the border teams. Everybody can pick the top 20 in the highest classification and the bottom 20. It's a 4 year deal based on what happened the previous 4 and whether teams are rising or falling. A good coach would know where a team that graduated all of it's talent might land. Don't let the sportswriters in on it. They have a hard time with the top 10 from one year to the next. If there are some obvious mistakes, adjust after 2 years.

 

Will it be precise? Probably not. What is, enrollment? That's been proven to be a poor indicator. Enrollment only plays the percentages that the schools with the most students will also have the most athletes. Enrollment should only be the first parameter. Then schools that should fall above or below their enrollment classification should be considered and placed accordingly.

 

How do travel baseball teams find themselves in A, AA or AAA? All of it's subjective. That still beats arbitrary.

[Baldcoach]

In addition, a merit system automatically takes into account ALL advantages and disadvantages. After all, performance is the sum of advantages and disadvantages..no more "you have bigger advantages than me" arguments.

[BDURHAM]

Merit system? Are you guys enjoying the intellectual discussion?

This is the last thing that will happen in the next 10-20 years.

 

Let's start talking about another Kennedy being in the White House.

 

The TSSAA is not considering a merit system. 90% of the coaches

out there don't think about a merit system. Nor do the administrators,

who sit on the Board of Control and Legislative Council.

 

In addition, a merit system automatically takes into account ALL advantages and disadvantages. After all, performance is the sum of advantages and disadvantages..no more "you have bigger advantages than me" arguments.

[Baldcoach]

Merit system? Are you guys enjoying the intellectual discussion?

This is the last thing that will happen in the next 10-20 years.

 

Let's start talking about another Kennedy being in the White House.

 

The TSSAA is not considering a merit system. 90% of the coaches

out there don't think about a merit system. Nor do the administrators,

who sit on the Board of Control and Legislative Council.

 

 

All of which doesn't mean it isn't the best and most equitable solution OR that it shouldn't be discussed. The only disadvantage to a merit system is that it treats all programs fairly, which plainly isn't the goal of the current system or favorite proposals.

[Antwan]

All of which doesn't mean it isn't the best and most equitable solution OR that it shouldn't be discussed. The only disadvantage to a merit system is that it treats all programs fairly, which plainly isn't the goal of the current system or favorite proposals.

 

 

Of course...that is the goal. The problem is everyone doesn't agree what the best solution is.

[Indian]

If and when a Brentwood Academy won a merit's highest classification, you'd go right back to the arguments that started the partial split.

 

If Goodpasture and the rest of the small schools remain in Division I, they should bring back Brentwood Academy, McCallie and the rest and put an equal burden on the large publics. As for the aid situation, if they're not specifically targeting athletes and recruiting them, that should not matter. It should be easy for the TSSAA to simply ask who initiated contact when a student and their family decides to enter a private school.

[taydizzle]

If and when a Brentwood Academy won a merit's highest classification, you'd go right back to the arguments that started the partial split.

 

If Goodpasture and the rest of the small schools remain in Division I, they should bring back Brentwood Academy, McCallie and the rest and put an equal burden on the large publics. As for the aid situation, if they're not specifically targeting athletes and recruiting them, that should not matter. It should be easy for the TSSAA to simply ask who initiated contact when a student and their family decides to enter a private school.

 

 

That sounds good on paper, but then you have the situation like Temple where if asked kids would say "My first contact was at Spring Football Practice"...the school gets their wrist slapped, drops the program and really nothing substantial happens.

[Indian]

Then increase the penalties to the school and rule a student permanently ineligible at any TSSAA school, if it's found later both the school and parents are lying.

[Baldcoach]

Then increase the penalties to the school and rule a student permanently ineligible at any TSSAA school, if it's found later both the school and parents are lying.

 

 

I agree here Indian...major violations should be majorly punished. Instead of trying to piecemeal stuff together, have a few simple, plainly worded, easy to police rules that are enforced vigorously and prosecute violaters fully...then you don't keep adding rule after rule after rule to try to catch the rulebreakers.