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11 hours ago, osunut2 said:

And with all of the glass houses here in Knox County, I wouldn't be shocked at all to see some retaliation from the Powell administration during the off-season. There is plenty of dirt out there, and I'd say we're going to see a lot more dirty laundry aired until KCS gets control of this ridiculous transfer situation that they've created.

On this whole subject, I started thinking this morning. Certain people claim they knew this was coming for a long time, yet two of the teams everyone is guessing had a hand in this, didn’t play Powell until the last two games of the year. Also, considering Powell supposedly approached the kids after the game, how could people know it was coming if Powell hadn’t committed the alleged offenses yet? And it was openly stated on the T long before those two games were played that they knew it was coming. 

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57 minutes ago, KnoxPhoto said:

On this whole subject, I started thinking this morning. Certain people claim they knew this was coming for a long time, yet two of the teams everyone is guessing had a hand in this, didn’t play Powell until the last two games of the year. Also, considering Powell supposedly approached the kids after the game, how could people know it was coming if Powell hadn’t committed the alleged offenses yet? And it was openly stated on the T long before those two games were played that they knew it was coming. 

Yeah, this is the part I can't get past, either.  So many people just knew of things that had happened and allegedly been sent to the TSSAA all season long, but this comes from the last two teams that Powell beat in the regular season over something that allegedly happened post game in those two games?  

Anybody with a brain to be able to think reasonably and rationally can put two and two together on that one.  

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15 minutes ago, HTV said:

Yeah, this is the part I can't get past, either.  So many people just knew of things that had happened and allegedly been sent to the TSSAA all season long, but this comes from the last two teams that Powell beat in the regular season over something that allegedly happened post game in those two games?  

Anybody with a brain to be able to think reasonably and rationally can put two and two together on that one.  

Yeah, something definitely seems off. 

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13 hours ago, osunut2 said:

Players and coaches gave statements, that's it. You're relying solely on "truthful" written statements and no other evidence. When those statements contradict one another, hello hearsay.

I'm not saying that Powell is innocent. I know what's been alleged. There's a lot of smoke, and I'm sure there is some truth there. But I also know that some of these area coaches stand to gain a LOT if TSSAA drops the hammer on Powell, whatever the reason. It wouldn't shock me at all to see a few people stretch the truth in order to see justice served. I'm not saying that happened in this situation, but when you don't have to look someone in the eye and give a statement, it makes a difference. You and I both know that I can call anyone a liar, write a statement, sign it, and no one has to corroborate my version of "the facts." Heck, I don't even have to corroborate my written version after I submit it. Thankfully, that doesn't fly in a court of law.

Cat, I'm going to play devil's advocate again. I don't know you, and I won't pretend like I know your role on the sidelines at Central. For all I know, you're the water boy. But did you read any of the actual written statements? Were you privy to any of those signed documents? Were you standing next to one of these coaches who allegedly recruited a kid post-game? If so, do you remember exactly what he said, how he said it, and in what context? We know what has been alleged, but I have no idea what was actually submitted to TSSAA by any of the whistle-blowers or by the folks over at Powell. If you've been privy to all of that, I hope you provided a written statement as well.

If you've ever sat on a jury (or worked in the courtroom), you find out pretty quickly that court cases are often portrayed differently in the public eye because the media can't share every detail (among other things). And as a result, everyone rushes to judgement without a complete understanding of the facts.

I’ll say this again as I’ve said before, I’m NOT the water boy or the ball boy,that would be Dave. Matter of fact the Knoxville focus just did a story on him, good read. You wanna know what I’ve actually seen? Ok here goes, back in I’m thinking April-May AC was hosting 7 v 7 games ran by I believe Carlos Youngers outfit. Central had a team in it, so naturally I went one Sunday to support our guys. Me and a friend went because COACHES are not supposed to be there and definitely not down around the players and I’m not a Coach. As we walked down on the track towards our guys, we noticed that one Head Coach was there, down on the SIDELINE talking to players. That HC was Matt Lowe, and as I would later find out the kid he was talking to did NOT go to Powell. Now you tell me, he’s not supposed to be there in the first place(Rosser told me he couldn’t go cause HCs aren’t supposed to be at those events) and to the point even more, he’s on the field talking to players he does not coach. So, does that spell Recruiting? Does to me, case closed. 

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1 hour ago, chsbobcat09 said:

I’ll say this again as I’ve said before, I’m NOT the water boy or the ball boy,that would be Dave. Matter of fact the Knoxville focus just did a story on him, good read. You wanna know what I’ve actually seen? Ok here goes, back in I’m thinking April-May AC was hosting 7 v 7 games ran by I believe Carlos Youngers outfit. Central had a team in it, so naturally I went one Sunday to support our guys. Me and a friend went because COACHES are not supposed to be there and definitely not down around the players and I’m not a Coach. As we walked down on the track towards our guys, we noticed that one Head Coach was there, down on the SIDELINE talking to players. That HC was Matt Lowe, and as I would later find out the kid he was talking to did NOT go to Powell. Now you tell me, he’s not supposed to be there in the first place(Rosser told me he couldn’t go cause HCs aren’t supposed to be at those events) and to the point even more, he’s on the field talking to players he does not coach. So, does that spell Recruiting? Does to me, case closed. 

Did you get a picture of the event as it happened? Seems to me this is where people say one thing but can't back it up....which is deemed hearsay by TSSAA.  I'm not questioning the validity of your story, just the case closed part. Personally, I think as long as Matt has Josh Jones on staff he'll have a bulls eye on the program. 

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3 hours ago, chsbobcat09 said:

Now you tell me, he’s not supposed to be there in the first place(Rosser told me he couldn’t go cause HCs aren’t supposed to be at those events) and to the point even more, he’s on the field talking to players he does not coach. So, does that spell Recruiting? Does to me, case closed.  

I can't condone his presence there, especially if he wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. Seems like that would have been a golden opportunity to snap a photo for TSSAA, ala Bruce Pearl. Was his appearance at this 7v7 event ever reported to TSSAA? Any photos? Just curious.

Regarding his contact with other players on the sideline, unless you were standing there with him (or overheard the conversations), what you are suggesting is purely circumstantial. If I saw what you saw, maybe I would draw a similar conclusion, but without knowing what he actually said to those kids, TSSAA can't/won't cook and fry him.

Any idea what he actually said to those players? What did those kids say to him? Were they ribbing each other at all? Was he giving them life advice? Stock tips?

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5 hours ago, KnoxPhoto said:

On this whole subject, I started thinking this morning. Certain people claim they knew this was coming for a long time, yet two of the teams everyone is guessing had a hand in this, didn’t play Powell until the last two games of the year. Also, considering Powell supposedly approached the kids after the game, how could people know it was coming if Powell hadn’t committed the alleged offenses yet? And it was openly stated on the T long before those two games were played that they knew it was coming. 

Karns is involved also. They played Karns earlier in the year.

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1 hour ago, osunut2 said:

I can't condone his presence there, especially if he wasn't supposed to be there in the first place. Seems like that would have been a golden opportunity to snap a photo for TSSAA, ala Bruce Pearl. Was his appearance at this 7v7 event ever reported to TSSAA? Any photos? Just curious.

Regarding his contact with other players on the sideline, unless you were standing there with him (or overheard the conversations), what you are suggesting is purely circumstantial. If I saw what you saw, maybe I would draw a similar conclusion, but without knowing what he actually said to those kids, TSSAA can't/won't cook and fry him.

Any idea what he actually said to those players? What did those kids say to him? Were they ribbing each other at all? Was he giving them life advice? Stock tips?

Why does Coach Lowe and his Coaching staff follow players from other teams on social media? That is something college coaches do when they are RECRUITING players still in high school.

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36 minutes ago, BigTime1950 said:

Why does Coach Lowe and his Coaching staff follow players from other teams on social media? That is something college coaches do when they are RECRUITING players still in high school.

Why do grown adult fans follow high school players on social media? 

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3 minutes ago, osunut2 said:

Why do grown adult fans follow high school players on social media? 

Well these people are not on the Coaching staff of a competing team in the same county/state that has already been found guilty of playing an ineligible player that this Coach was recruiting when he was a coach at a private school. You are doging the question.

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2 minutes ago, BigTime1950 said:

Well these people are not on the Coaching staff of a competing team in the same county/state that has already been found guilty of playing an ineligible player that this Coach was recruiting when he was a coach at a private school. You are doging the question. 

What do you want me to say? I'm not Lowe, so I won't pretend to know what he is trying to do. Again, I know what's been alleged, but I don't have any inside info. I just think it's a little creepy for random adults to follow high school athletes on Twitter, but what do I know. 

To my knowledge, there is zero rule against a coach following anyone on Twitter. While we're at it, why don't we scrub the Twitter account of every single HC in Knox County so we can get to the bottom of this. I didn't realize that following someone on Twitter was the equivalent of a smoking gun. :popcorneater:

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