What schools benefit from open enrollment and does it leave room for cheating?

[BCsportsfan]

On 12/12/2020 at 8:55 PM, Golddoctor said:

One of their posters just woke up a sleeping dog.  Lets talk about it guys

Ha, sleeping dog? More like a dog full of.........

OK, lil feller, you'll feel better once you get to the "bottom" of ALL this cheat'n!

[Snowballschance]

9 hours ago, PeabodyPride said:

Rules apply,I in no way doubt your passion,I followed this very closely last year,I do get where you are coming from but I do ask can you be 100 percent sure you was given all facts ! I did give you a jab or two that I now regret,not that I don't enjoy banter but I respect the heck out of your passion ! I also do believe the TSSAA does their best to be honest and fair bit as in any governing body crap can happen !

Just a tough one to gage, never has it come up that a kid has to be serviced by a bus route to be eligible. In fact, some schools don’t run busses period. I guess all is right with the world now that they got a gold ball,just hate it for 26 seniors, But the TSSAA should have done a better job, no way should something slip through your radar twice! However, transfers happen, and complaining about it isn’t making them go away

[Tide21]

42 minutes ago, Snowballschance said:

Just a tough one to gage, never has it come up that a kid has to be serviced by a bus route to be eligible. In fact, some schools don’t run busses period. I guess all is right with the world now that they got a gold ball,just hate it for 26 seniors, But the TSSAA should have done a better job, no way should something slip through your radar twice! However, transfers happen, and complaining about it isn’t making them go away

How would the tssaa know he wasn’t on the bus route ?  It’s the schools responsibility to follow the rules. Someone else knew the rules and turned it in 

[RZ99]

20 minutes ago, Tide21 said:

How would the tssaa know he wasn’t on the bus route ?  It’s the schools responsibility to follow the rules. Someone else knew the rules and turned it in 

I agree with you it is the school’s job to know all of the rules and do their best to follow them to the letter. If there is any question, TSSAA is open to clear up confusion. I can’t argue against the punishment even though I am a Fayetteville fan and didn’t like it. 

Here is where it gets tricky making bus route part of the requirement for boundary purposes. I will make up a scenario and use Peabody in the example. Let’s say a kid moves into the Peabody school zone. Let’s say he is less than a mile from the school. There is not a bus that runs by his house because no one on that road has a kid that needs to ride the bus. He doesn’t need the bus because he is 17 and has a car. So per the TSSAA, he is not in the Peabody school district because he must live in the Peabody school board’s defined zone AND a Peabody bus must go by his house, whether he needs it or not. 

Let’s look at another scenario and use Moore County as the example. Let’s say a kid moves from Tullahoma into a remote part of Moore County. No buses run down his road because he is the only house on it and his parents drive him to school. Per TSSAA, this kid is not in the Moore County district because even though he is living in an area defined by Moore County’s school board, there is not a bus running by his house. 

Also, let’s assume the TSSAA has looked into this kids address and paperwork twice and both times said he was eligible. Later another person at the TSSAA gets in charge due to the first approver being on medical leave and reverses the decision after games have been played and knocks your team out of the playoffs. This is essentially what happened to Fayetteville last year.

[Snowballschance]

51 minutes ago, Tide21 said:

How would the tssaa know he wasn’t on the bus route ?  It’s the schools responsibility to follow the rules. Someone else knew the rules and turned it in 

Bus routes are never a factor in enrollment in Lincoln county, in fact he would have been eligible as a student, bus routes only determine eligibility for transfers apparently. Why would the kid EVER be eligible if the bus route needed to go by his house? Either buses shouldn’t matter, or they should. I’m fine with either, would like some consistency. 

Edited December 15, 2020 by Snowballschance

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[vandyfan1]

@Tide21 @PeabodyPride @Snowballschance @Richmond30

Can you guys educate me on the transfer crap? So if a kid moves into a County and wants to play does that kid always have to sit a year? Another question is if a kid moves to a county and wants to play does that school have to have a bus route to pick that kid up or have a bus available for that kid if one is needed? We don’t have that privilege here in Waverly there is no big surrounding schools we can try to get players like a lot of y’all can. 

[rlh]

17 minutes ago, vandyfan1 said:

@Tide21 @PeabodyPride @Snowballschance @Richmond30

Can you guys educate me on the transfer crap? So if a kid moves into a County and wants to play does that kid always have to sit a year? Another question is if a kid moves to a county and wants to play does that school have to have a bus route to pick that kid up or have a bus available for that kid if one is needed? We don’t have that privilege here in Waverly there is no big surrounding schools we can try to get players like a lot of y’all can. 

If they move into the busing route of another school, they would likely have to sit out  a year unless they file a successful hardship application.  Signal Mountain had to address these issues once upon a time.  If they go to the school with the bus route, as long as residency is established, they don't have to sit out.

[orngnblk]

6 minutes ago, rlh said:

If they move into the busing route of another school, they would likely have to sit out  a year unless they file a successful hardship application.  Signal Mountain had to address these issues once upon a time.  If they go to the school with the bus route, as long as residency is established, they don't have to sit out.

In Loudon County say a kid goes to Loudon Middle,Lenoir City Middle or North Middle then they decide to come to GB it's perfectly legal we are all in the same county.NOW if those kids go thru at least 3 days spring practice or play a year at either Loudon High or Lenoir city high and then decide to come to GB then they have to physically move to where a GB bus runs in front of their new home.Its pretty simple.

[PeabodyPride]

20 minutes ago, orngnblk said:

In Loudon County say a kid goes to Loudon Middle,Lenoir City Middle or North Middle then they decide to come to GB it's perfectly legal we are all in the same county.NOW if those kids go thru at least 3 days spring practice or play a year at either Loudon High or Lenoir city high and then decide to come to GB then they have to physically move to where a GB bus runs in front of their new home.Its pretty simple.

Yep that's a perfect and simple explanation.

[Bushog02]

2 minutes ago, PeabodyPride said:

Yep that's a perfect and simple explanation.

That’s how it is in Marion. It’s called open enrollment 

[PeabodyPride]

Just now, Bushog02 said:

That’s how it is in Marion. It’s called open enrollment 

Most don't realize all schools in Tennessee are infact open enrollment.