tradertwo Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 1 minute ago, lakecounty1968 said: The question to all of this is what the TSSAA is going to do. Are they going to divide classes evenly or use a hard number for a cutoff? Imo the hard number needs to be used. It groups the schools that have similar enrollments together better than even number of teams in each class. There are good points to that, and some bad ones...if you use a hard and fast cutoff number, who sets it? There's potential for some underhandedness in setting the cutoff on the front end, and even more for "adjusting" to that number if you're reporting to TSSAA. I sort of like the TSSAA's proposal regarding not being classified with schools twice the enrollment, but think that it would be better to start on the bottom end and work upward than start with the largest and work down. My logic is there's a smaller advantage between 2,800 students and 1,400 if we're talking about selecting 80 kids to play football than there is a 200 vs. 400 enrollment finding 11 "good" athletes to put on the field every snap. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lakecounty1968 Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just now, tradertwo said: There are good points to that, and some bad ones...if you use a hard and fast cutoff number, who sets it? There's potential for some underhandedness in setting the cutoff on the front end, and even more for "adjusting" to that number if you're reporting to TSSAA. I sort of like the TSSAA's proposal regarding not being classified with schools twice the enrollment, but think that it would be better to start on the bottom end and work upward than start with the largest and work down. My logic is there's a smaller advantage between 2,800 students and 1,400 if we're talking about selecting 80 kids to play football than there is a 200 vs. 400 enrollment finding 11 "good" athletes to put on the field every snap. I totally agree. They should start at the bottom and work there way up but if they go that route then they will start at the top. The TSSAA has a hard time doing what is right. Looking at some of the enrollment numbers I have alot questions with some certain schools. One school in local area has dropped 110 kids since the last enrollment cycle. They turned there enrollment in in August. I have a hard time believing with the size of that town that they dropped that many students. I think a surprise count of some schools should happen if in question. That's just me speculating about this school. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
polkalumni Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 Just looking at the numbers, if the TSSAA proposal was ever used they would have to start from the top. If you start from the bottom you get to more than double the enrollment very quickly. For example Oakdale at 136, Copper Basin at 154, Coalfield at 160 and Cloudland at 161 would not be in the same class as Cornersville, Sale Creek, Whitwell and in Oakdale’s case, South Pitt. In my mind all of those schools belong in the lowest classification, but by starting from the bottom some very small schools get pushed up to 2A. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rlh Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 49 minutes ago, lakecounty1968 said: I totally agree. They should start at the bottom and work there way up but if they go that route then they will start at the top. The TSSAA has a hard time doing what is right. Looking at some of the enrollment numbers I have alot questions with some certain schools. One school in local area has dropped 110 kids since the last enrollment cycle. They turned there enrollment in in August. I have a hard time believing with the size of that town that they dropped that many students. I think a surprise count of some schools should happen if in question. That's just me speculating about this school. If its the school in question, I agree with you. Several times in the past they report over 400 students to magically be 1 or 2 students below the cut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChineseFlu Posted October 1, 2022 Report Share Posted October 1, 2022 I think roster numbers on a year to year basis as well as geography should be looked at as well. There are a lot of schools that have "low enrollment numbers" (1A) and have 65 on a roster and some schools that are a 2A or 3A and have 30 on the roster on a year to year basis. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtowner Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 The SouthTown Stab CLASS 1A Gleason High School 122 Oakdale High School 136 Copper Basin High School 154 Coalfield High School 160 Cloudland High School 161 Sunbright High School 167 Greenfield High School 171 Red Boiling Springs High School 177 South Fulton High School 186 Lookout Valley High School 189 Hollow Rock-Bruceton Central High School 197 Pickett Co. High School 200 Lake Co. High School 204 Greenback High School 206 Midway High School 228 Collinwood High School 238 Huntland High School 239 Chattanooga Preparatory School 246 Humboldt High School 267 West Carroll High School 267 Oliver Springs High School 272 Jellico High School 273 Wayne Co. High School 273 Middleton High School 275 Hancock Co. High School 279 Moore Co. High School 289 Perry Co. High School 298 McEwen High School 299 South Pittsburg High School 303 B. T. Washington High School 304 Memphis Middle College High School 311 Cornersville High School 314 Unaka High School 314 Dresden High School 316 North Greene High School 317 Jo Byrns High School 321 Westwood High School 322 Clay Co. High School 325 Cosby High School 330 Eagleville High School 335 Halls High School 342 Sale Creek High School 347 Whitwell High School 348 Union City High School 356 McKenzie High School 357 Richland High School 360 Harriman High School 362 Rockwood High School 364 Gordonsville High School 365 Houston Co. High School 371 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtowner Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 The SouthTown Stab Class 2A Manassas High School 374 Memphis Academy of Science & Engineering 378 Hillcrest High School 382 Wartburg Central High School 383 Oakhaven High School 384 Fayetteville High School 385 East Robertson High School 388 Martin Luther King, Jr. Preparatory High School 395 Mitchell High School 397 Trousdale Co. High School 397 Huntingdon High School 400 Jackson Co. High School 400 Polk Co. High School 400 Fairley High School 402 Peabody High School 405 Tellico Plains High School 407 Oneida High School 415 Eagleton College and Career Academy 420 Summertown High School 426 Monterey High School 427 Lewis Co. High School 428 Mt. Pleasant High School 430 Happy Valley High School 431 Jackson Central-Merry High School 431 Hampton High School 439 Adamsville High School 442 Hickman Co. High School 448 Gibson Co. High School 455 Decatur Co. Riverside High School 457 KIPP Memphis Collegiate School 470 East Hickman High School 472 Cumberland Gap High School 481 Bledsoe Co. High School 486 Loretto High School 487 Alvin C. York Institute 489 Marion Co. High School 494 Bluff City High School 499 Freedom Preparatory Academy 502 Smith Co. High School 503 Westmoreland High School 504 Waverly Central High School 506 Camden Central High School 510 West Greene High School 510 Memphis Business Academy 512 Cannon Co. High School 516 South Greene High School 520 Forrest High School 530 Harpeth High School 533 Milan High School 533 Sheffield High School 540 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtowner Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 (edited) ^This is a Stab.^ Only a Stab. Your Stab may vary. https://tssaa.org/2022-fall-enrollments Edited October 2, 2022 by Southtowner Added TSSAA enrollment link Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HevyReturns Posted October 2, 2022 Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 On 9/28/2022 at 7:22 PM, YBsostupid said: Trenton Peabody lacked just on ( 1 ) student from going 2A instead of 1A. When a school lacks 1-4 students then some type of verification should be applied. In addition, when a school with about 335 students has an athletic offensive line that averages about 6' 2" and 280 pounds for 6-7 years in a row then something just ain't right. Trenton Peabody again this year has an offensive line that could go up against any 6A school in the state. This just does not add up. I just can't see anyone other than a Trenton Peabody fan disagreeing with me on this. Once in while a small town school might just happen to have a few classes like that. It happens. This was the case with Adamsville for a few years. Now, with the same coach, all those extra large kids are gone. Maybe in a few years they'll have another few classes of bigons. But, for it to go on as long as it has at Peabody just doesn't pass the smell test. We were thiiiiiiiis close moving to Trenton-Peabody area but the Lord put us in Dresden instead. Luv it too. I have deep, long family roots in that area of the woods, and there is special properties, nutrients, & stuff in the water & soil & edible plants grown around there. Used to be called “farm fed” boys, or country breed, or sumin like dat. Just like Vidalia onions are only found in that one area of Georgia (which area also grows the trees where most of the worlds chopsticks are made, those trees are “perfect” for them, all thanks to the soil content, so I learned recently).. it’s the same for that nook & cranny of W.Tenn area, they just grow them young ‘ins bigger in that area. I think the town name, in the ancient native tongue, means Area Of Giants, or something like that. <<< so I been told by the locals & relatives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtowner Posted October 2, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 2, 2022 23 hours ago, Southtowner said: ^This is a Stab.^ Only a Stab. Your Stab may vary. https://tssaa.org/2022-fall-enrollments Nobody likes my stabs? No comments? No critquing? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Southtowner Posted October 3, 2022 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 (edited) @Indian looking at your 3A guess, do you have Trezevant playing up? What about RePublic? Also, since no one has brought it up, I will. Looking at my 1A projection I have Pickett County listed. Will they field a team next year? But more importantly, will they figure into the overall list of football playing schools that help determine the cutoff points? And how many "new schools" are there that figure into this process? I have counted 299. Up from 294 in the last reclassification/2020. Edited October 3, 2022 by Southtowner I'm the editor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tradertwo Posted October 3, 2022 Report Share Posted October 3, 2022 42 minutes ago, Southtowner said: Nobody likes my stabs? No comments? No critquing? Anyone? Bueller? Bueller? Looks good to me...oh, and SAVE FERRIS Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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