Signal Mountain to appeal

[rlh]

Well there is hope for you after all. You're getting at least some things right. Only thing now is understanding there isn't any difference between a paired school for NCLB and a hardship pairing by the HCDE, this will be your last step to freedom.

 

If it was a hardship, then he wasn't paired with anyone and SM is definitely out of his zone and since he practiced with LFO in spring and participated in scrimmages verified by 2 coaches, he would have to sit our for a year or try to get an athletic hardship waiver from TSSAA. The hardship is even more problematic than the NCLB.

[Yeehaw]

Well how about it PG, rlh, barb, yeehaw and others do you agree with Lancer?

 

No.

I don't care about whatif's and opinions - SM screwed up their paperwork, not TSSAA - and since they are the ones who are well paid to make sure their school is operated properly by law and regulations - they did not do their job and therefore are probably not qualified to manage a McDonald's.

Since they are allegedly experienced in their positions, incompetence is not a defense. If they are not incompetent - they willfully cheated on the process.

[barb]

Well how about it PG, rlh, barb, yeehaw and others do you agree with Lancer?

Not exactly, NCLB students still need to file hardship form with TSSAA, who should readily grant it. Perhaps a change in the form is needed to accomodate NCLB. You know, is the school in whose territory the student resides a target school as defined by NCLB? Is the school which the student attends paired with the target school per the local school board? If the answer to both is yes complete the accompanying form. Perhaps the form should also be changed as well to include a "if, then" clause for hardship transfers to prevent these highly educated administrators who expect students to follow instructions and answer questions truthfully and correctly from making unfortunate assumptions that damage a kids eligibility( which brings me to question how they would respond to a student who used the "but I thought" or the "everybody else does" approach to their classwork or school rules)

[gcfball]

Are there any fat, slow, uncoordinated kids getting "hardship" status?

 

This is hilarious! It is funny how the schools who get out of zone kids, don't "recruit" the spelling bee champ from an out of zone middle school.

[PurpleGrad]

Well how about it PG, rlh, barb, yeehaw and others do you agree with Lancer?

No. If a kid from Brainerd has an athletic record at Brainerd, he/she would have to sit for 12 months at Ooltewah before being eligible. The only alternative would be to apply to TSSAA for athletic hardship, which would most likely be granted, thus making the kid eligible immediately.

 

You guys aren't listening. Being able to attend another school because your school is failing does not automatically make you eligible to participate in sports. The kid's parents would have to apply to HCDE for NCLB hardship to attend Ooltewah. Then, Ooltewah would have to apply to TSSAA for hardship to gain athletic eligibility.

[smeagle1]

No. If a kid from Brainerd has an athletic record at Brainerd, he/she would have to sit for 12 months at Ooltewah before being eligible. The only alternative would be to apply to TSSAA for athletic hardship, which would most likely be granted, thus making the kid eligible immediately.

 

You guys aren't listening. Being able to attend another school because your school is failing does not automatically make you eligible to participate in sports. The kid's parents would have to apply to HCDE for NCLB hardship to attend Ooltewah. Then, Ooltewah would have to apply to TSSAA for hardship to gain athletic eligibility.

 

Maybe you and barb need to read the story that I just found on the main page. Here is the link. Eligibility gray area exposed

[smokinote]

Here is what I think... I would be willing to bet that the kid isn't exactly vanderbilt or Harvard material grade wise so the academic bull crap is a mute point to me. If he was zoned for brainerd he should have went to brainerd. If be was zoned for Howard he should have went to Howard. End of story. Cry on signal mountain... Cry on.... I love to hear the excuses. And deep down I really hope somehow you make the playoffs so you will get drilled by the green devils and I can hear a multitude of new excuses from the mtn.

[binns37388]

When Signal Mtn joined the TSSAA, they agreed to play by the rules. Brentwood Academy fought the law and the law won.

Edited October 13, 2011 by binns37388

[lancer10]

No. If a kid from Brainerd has an athletic record at Brainerd, he/she would have to sit for 12 months at Ooltewah before being eligible. The only alternative would be to apply to TSSAA for athletic hardship, which would most likely be granted, thus making the kid eligible immediately.

 

You guys aren't listening. Being able to attend another school because your school is failing does not automatically make you eligible to participate in sports. The kid's parents would have to apply to HCDE for NCLB hardship to attend Ooltewah. Then, Ooltewah would have to apply to TSSAA for hardship to gain athletic eligibility.

you say no....then you say what I said?

[PurpleGrad]

Maybe you and barb need to read the story that I just found on the main page. Here is the link. Eligibility gray area exposed

Wow! I'm speechless. There's absolutely nothing in that article that hasn't already been hashed out on this thread and nothing that says TSSAA is considering a rule change.

 

Did you even read this or did you just see that it was related to SMMHS and decided to post it. Gillespie tells you what their stance is:

 

1. Online form submitted with incorrect information is the most important issue.

2. Delay was due to Golf State Tournament and West Tn admin meetings.

3. TSSAA doesn't recognize NCLB hardships.

 

For SMMHS to win it's appeal, TSSAA would be forced to open Pandora's box and I'm sure that Childress man, nor any of the Board of Control members, want that to happen.

 

Keep in mind, this is not a court of law with an impartial jury. SMMHS will be arguing their case with the very people who handed down the punishment so winning is going to be very difficult, if not impossible.

Edited October 13, 2011 by PurpleGrad

[Omniscience]

Maybe you and barb need to read the story that I just found on the main page. Here is the link. Eligibility gray area exposed

 

The TSSAA will make a statement with this ruling, because if they allow this all doors are open for students to b.s. there way onto any team they want because they say they have a hardship

[snoball5278]

Maybe you and barb need to read the story that I just found on the main page. Here is the link. Eligibility gray area exposed

 

babs, you better get on nooga.com and tell these folks how wrong they are and how right you are.