midtnmale Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Vols2016 said: 4 classes would kill some of these single a teams whose enrollment is around 160 that would make single a cutoff around 500. 500 vs 160 is a huge difference. 4 classes sounds really good to you guys with 1500+ enrollment. Such is life. There used to be only three classes in football, period. It's this kind of sentiment that has three classes in Division II when there is fewer than 49 schools, which about average number of schools in each class in Division I. Or perhaps Division I should have about 18 classes to make it the same ratio as Division II Edited September 26, 2018 by midtnmale omission Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldandBusted Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 Current 297 Class 1A 52 0-375 Class 2A 48 376-556 Class 3A 48 557-821 Class 4A 47 822-1102 Class 5A 54 1103-1508 Class 6A 49 1509 and greater New Idea 1A 74 0-480 2A 74 481-820 3A 74 821-1240 4a 75 1241 and greater 297 Very Doable in my opinion. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lost Old Dad Posted September 26, 2018 Report Share Posted September 26, 2018 26 minutes ago, OldandBusted said: Current 297 Class 1A 52 0-375 Class 2A 48 376-556 Class 3A 48 557-821 Class 4A 47 822-1102 Class 5A 54 1103-1508 Class 6A 49 1509 and greater New Idea 1A 74 0-480 2A 74 481-820 3A 74 821-1240 4a 75 1241 and greater 297 Very Doable in my opinion. Makes sense and will NEVER be adopted because it does NOT provide for the amount of games the T$$AA can make MONEY on. Follow the money as it is ALL the T$$AA cares about. FOOTBALL pays for over 90% of the T$$AA's budget. Can't have all those folks paying for their own hotel rooms and the like at their quarterly meetings and mini vacations. BTW WHO actually sees their financial statements every year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vols2016 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 hours ago, OldandBusted said: Current 297 Class 1A 52 0-375 Class 2A 48 376-556 Class 3A 48 557-821 Class 4A 47 822-1102 Class 5A 54 1103-1508 Class 6A 49 1509 and greater New Idea 1A 74 0-480 2A 74 481-820 3A 74 821-1240 4a 75 1241 and greater 297 Very Doable in my opinion. How are u going to align regions have some with 8 -10 teams some with 7. That will destroy out of region games. Or go to 16 districts like basketball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vols2016 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 7 hours ago, midtnmale said: Such is life. There used to be only three classes in football, period. It's this kind of sentiment that has three classes in Division II when there is fewer than 49 schools, which about average number of schools in each class in Division I. Or perhaps Division I should have about 18 classes to make it the same ratio as Division II That was also before a lot of schools districts started consolidating into bigger schools. 6 classes seems to work well. Seems like u larger schools just want to play teams smaller than u. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
midtnmale Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 39 minutes ago, Vols2016 said: That was also before a lot of schools districts started consolidating into bigger schools. 6 classes seems to work well. Seems like u larger schools just want to play teams smaller than u. Six classes works poorly. Too many regions with six or fewer schools in them. This then forces schools to work harder to get out-of-region games scheduled in order to get a full slate of ten games for the regular season. And since many schools don't want to play teams in the regular season that they may see in the playoff, they end of playing teams out of their class anyway. By the way, why do you assume that I am aligned with a large school? I primarily follow Maplewood, a school that's 4A now, and would likely be 3A in a four classification system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhea Co. Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 I’ve been in favor of 5 classes on the public side and 2 on the private side. I think the numbers might work better with 5 classes. It would give roughly each class 58-60 schools in each class which would give each region around 7 teams give or take. It will also accommodate growth of new schools being built in the future. I’m alright with 6 but the tssaa could cut it back to 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWAVE1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 I do not mind having a large 32 team class with the top 16 going to the playoffs and then divide the remaining teams in 4 classes with the top 32 going to the playoffs. That way post season is earned. You could even go top 40 to make it easier for region set up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaPaLegba Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 Ultimately, a day is coming and fast when we will need 6 classes. Tennessee is growing and new schools are being built year after year. We are not going to get rid of classes, that is nonsense to even say we should, because TSSAA will make less money. Within 10 years we'll be at 7 public classes and 3 private classes probably. Feel free to bask in the wonderful member berries of days long ago when you were tougher than these millennials and walked to school in the snow everyday, and you could buy a Moon Pie for a nickel and there were 3 classes and Brentwood Academy won it every single year, but those days are gone like it or not. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWAVE1 Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 56 minutes ago, PaPaLegba said: Ultimately, a day is coming and fast when we will need 6 classes. Tennessee is growing and new schools are being built year after year. We are not going to get rid of classes, that is nonsense to even say we should, because TSSAA will make less money. Within 10 years we'll be at 7 public classes and 3 private classes probably. Feel free to bask in the wonderful member berries of days long ago when you were tougher than these millennials and walked to school in the snow everyday, and you could buy a Moon Pie for a nickel and there were 3 classes and Brentwood Academy won it every single year, but those days are gone like it or not. Only in 2A because they would never move up. Only had 3 financial aid kids back then not 50. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacer Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 We’re a decade into the 6-class system. It’s here to stay, guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSURacer Posted September 27, 2018 Report Share Posted September 27, 2018 1 hour ago, PaPaLegba said: Ultimately, a day is coming and fast when we will need 6 classes. Tennessee is growing and new schools are being built year after year. We are not going to get rid of classes, that is nonsense to even say we should, because TSSAA will make less money. Within 10 years we'll be at 7 public classes and 3 private classes probably. Feel free to bask in the wonderful member berries of days long ago when you were tougher than these millennials and walked to school in the snow everyday, and you could buy a Moon Pie for a nickel and there were 3 classes and Brentwood Academy won it every single year, but those days are gone like it or not. Agreed with the general idea here. I do believe the state was about 15-20 years early on expanding to 6 classes, but it’s definitely not about to start retracting anytime soon. They might bump DII back down to 2 classes eventually, but that’s about the only realistic retraction scenario I see. Also, the state has long outgrown 3 classes. Suggesting a return to that is crazy talk. I’m surprised basketball, baseball, and softball haven’t expanded to at least 4. I still think 5 was/is a good number for this state, but 6 is what we have, and is probably best going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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