GWAVE1 Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Everyone in Gallatin awaits the judges decision...will they hear the case or is the season truly unceremoniously over? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GWAVE1 Posted November 4, 2003 Author Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 Just1np, I just read on the other thread about the rulings reguarding BA and the TSSAA. Since the TSSAA is considered an arm of the government, I now see why Gallatin took them to Federal Court and not a smaller one. I was hoping to see that was the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gtowner Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 I will let you all know if I get word of anything today, and I hope that you will do the same. Gwave, have you heard anything new lately? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELA Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 This ruling is very different from the BA lawsuit and it will not change the outcome of the games unless a court orders an injunction preventing ALL playoff games this Friday. I don't think the courts work that quickly and it simply will not happen. After the games are held on Friday, it doesn't matter what the courts say except to restore the games lost as a result of the ruling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 82cat, This is a difficult issue. It is not fair to punish a school in this situation but it is also not fair to cost a kid a whole year of eligibility. Somewhere in the middle is the answer. I know Gallatin did everything above board. I think a little common sense has to be applied when dealing with these gray areas and everyone who knows me will tell you I see EVERYTHING in black and white. You are right about some using this to deceive to get players they want. This whole situation was a no win for Gallatin. At the same time it is unfair to hold a legitimate transfer out to avoid the wrath of the TSSAA. I know they are doing their job but use some good ole common sense. By the way, word from those who know is Gallatin's case IS being heard and a decision to grant them an injunction (or whatever they call it) WILL be made today. GreenWave fans keep your fingers crossed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELA Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 82cat, This is a difficult issue. It is not fair to punish a school in this situation but it is also not fair to cost a kid a whole year of eligibility. Somewhere in the middle is the answer. I know Gallatin did everything above board. I think a little common sense has to be applied when dealing with these gray areas and everyone who knows me will tell you I see EVERYTHING in black and white. You are right about some using this to deceive to get players they want. This whole situation was a no win for Gallatin. At the same time it is unfair to hold a legitimate transfer out to avoid the wrath of the TSSAA. I know they are doing their job but use some good ole common sense. By the way, word from those who know is Gallatin's case IS being heard and a decision to grant them an injunction (or whatever they call it) WILL be made today. GreenWave fans keep your fingers crossed. I said this on another thread and I think it is good to repeat it on this thread. Even youth league football teams are bound by residency rules. If a youth football team has a child on the team that is not on the list or someone who does not live at the address that is listed, that team forfeits those games. This is a rule that is enforced at schools and programs around the nation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 ELA, So how does a school avoid getting sucker-punched by the TSSAA. Do you make a legitimate transfer sit out to avoid this. How is that fair to the kid? Gallatin did EVERYTHING possible to avoid this on the front end. Are the schools supposed to break into the kids house and take pictures or what. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ELA Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 ELA, So how does a school avoid getting sucker-punched by the TSSAA. Do you make a legitimate transfer sit out to avoid this. How is that fair to the kid? Gallatin did EVERYTHING possible to avoid this on the front end. Are the schools supposed to break into the kids house and take pictures or what. Again, it is not the responsibility of the TSSAA to insure that a kid lives where he says he lives, it is the responsibility of the parents to tell the truth when they sign their kid up to play ball. This could happen to any school! CPA turned themselves in when they discovered they had a problem. If the rules need to be changed, then Gallatin should request a rule change, but under the circumstances, the TSSAA had no choice but to follow the rules that are on the books. I don't think it was a sucker punch for the TSSAA to follow the rules from their handbook. Maybe in the future, a new rule can be written, but since this came out so late in the season, what else could be done? It's a bad situation for both the TSSAA and Gallatin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gwave604 Posted November 4, 2003 Report Share Posted November 4, 2003 has anybody heard anything about the ruling today?? i am sick today so i didnt go to school or practice so i dont know what went on. if anybody finds out about it post it quickly. im anxious to find out if this whole year was a waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squoshwave17 Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 No decision has been made. They have till 5PM on Thursday to decide. But as of right now, nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wireman Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 ELA, So how does a school avoid getting sucker-punched by the TSSAA. Do you make a legitimate transfer sit out to avoid this. How is that fair to the kid? Gallatin did EVERYTHING possible to avoid this on the front end. Are the schools supposed to break into the kids house and take pictures or what. Again, it is not the responsibility of the TSSAA to insure that a kid lives where he says he lives, it is the responsibility of the parents to tell the truth when they sign their kid up to play ball. This could happen to any school! CPA turned themselves in when they discovered they had a problem. If the rules need to be changed, then Gallatin should request a rule change, but under the circumstances, the TSSAA had no choice but to follow the rules that are on the books. I don't think it was a sucker punch for the TSSAA to follow the rules from their handbook. Maybe in the future, a new rule can be written, but since this came out so late in the season, what else could be done? It's a bad situation for both the TSSAA and Gallatin. Ela, I disagree with the notion that the TSSAA had no choice but rule this way. The bylaws say an exception can be made. If the TSSAA had not appoved Gallatin's request twice they could have filed for a hardship. There is no possible way a school can pry into a kid's private family life and I maintain the TSSAA takes the cowards way out. Why is there no consideration for the INTENT of the law. I read the bylaws today and the TSSAA has a whole layer in there to cover their rears. It is impossible iin todays society to comply completely. What they did to Gallatin is plain old wrong. There is absolutely nothing Gallatin could have done and by doing it "by the book" they received the high school death penalty. You guys can continue this TSSAA and Ronnie Carter lovefest but they have the most fault in this. How can a school take a chance on playing any kid after this. To my knowledge nothing has changed and Gallatin was 100 percent truthful on everyting. You tell me how Gallatin could have prevented this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FairInMyFavor Posted November 5, 2003 Report Share Posted November 5, 2003 it is the responsibility of the parents to tell the truth when they sign their kid up to play ball. Maybe in the future, a new rule can be written, but since this came out so late in the season, what else could be done? Good point....It is the responsibility of teh parent(s) to tell the truth about where they live when they enroll their kid at ANY school. If the kid is not living where they say he/she is living, THE KID knows better. Solution: If parents and kids deceive a school in such a manner, have THAT KID lose all future eligibility at ANY SCHOOL, but don't punish the folks who were deceived...in this case, Gallatin and their football team. That doesn't make any sense. If the parents could be fined, that would be great, but you can't get at the parents, except by not allowing their kid to ever play ball again anywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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