ILB1999 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 7 minutes ago, OldRebel2 said: TN teachers' starting salaries pretty much run the same way with the same three as the top three in the state (among public schools) so the teachers' ages don't necessarily have much to do with it. that's not true though. In Knoxville, I knw most young teachers don't get highered at Marville and OR, it's people that have been teaching a while go there. and they automatially get paid more because of the experience. And that would effect the average salary for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILB1999 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 not ta mentiion, someone was applying out of school recently told me, the starting salary is the same in both districts? She said right around $43 ,000. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osunut2 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 18 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said: that's not true though. In Knoxville, I knw most young teachers don't get highered at Marville and OR, it's people that have been teaching a while go there. and they automatially get paid more because of the experience. And that would effect the average salary for sure. OR city schools also has a much higher percentage of MS/PhD faculty compared to the surrounding school systems. It's a combination of experience plus higher credentials. That's how they warrant the higher salary. My wife is a retired teacher, and it is very difficult to get hired into the OR school system with just BS degree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ILB1999 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 13 minutes ago, osunut2 said: OR city schools also has a much higher percentage of MS/PhD faculty compared to the surrounding school systems. It's a combination of experience plus higher credentials. That's how they warrant the higher salary. My wife is a retired teacher, and it is very difficult to get hired into the OR school system with just BS degree. exactly my point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldRebel2 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 43 minutes ago, ILB1999WHS said: that's not true though. In Knoxville, I knw most young teachers don't get highered at Marville and OR, it's people that have been teaching a while go there. and they automatially get paid more because of the experience. And that would effect the average salary for sure. Sorry, I wasn't clear. I meant that Oak Ridge's, Maryville's & Alcoa's starting salaries are the highest among all TN public schools. And the good point was made by osunut2 about higher degrees getting rewarded with higher salaries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetScience Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 (edited) Let’s be real, though, on average most coaches aren’t teaching what I’d call very high tech teaching positions. Most of mine were in the PE business, or “wellness” type classes. In other words, we aren’t talking rocket science here. Gaddis taught history, but he was one of the few when I was in school. Edited January 17, 2023 by SweetScience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarneySox2007 Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 My coach taught History and spent as much time out of the class as in it. He would have us read a chapter out of the History book and have a week to do it that the average third grader could read in an hour and at the end of the week he gave us an A,B,C,D multiple choice test. He would go down to the library where the copy machine was and while he was gone I would run up to his desk and read the answers out to the class and everyone made 95's and 100's. Then the one week he already had the test made which didn't give me the chance to do my thing and everyone was on their own which most failed. He then ask me right in front of the whole class if I were giving the class the answers while he went to the library then turned and looked at the whole class and told us we weren't nothing but a bunch of cheaters. That my friends is why I stayed in his dog house plus my long hair I wouldn't ever get cut 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTV Posted January 17, 2023 Report Share Posted January 17, 2023 2 hours ago, OldRebel2 said: Yes. It's interesting the OR is #1, followed by Maryville at #2 and Alcoa at #3. Sort of explains how Maryville and Alcoa have the same staff, year in and year out. And why guys leave head coaching gigs elsewhere to take assistants jobs at one of those schools. They still end up with significant pay increases. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILLNUM1 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 2 hours ago, HTV said: And why guys leave head coaching gigs elsewhere to take assistants jobs at one of those schools. They still end up with significant pay increases. Bingo.Ive seen that at Oak Ridge and wondered why someone would go from HC to Asst and thats why.Could be a big deal for some families.And Ive always heard they pay the HCs very well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
STILLNUM1 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 4 hours ago, ILB1999WHS said: Wouldn't be the move for me. Maybe yall will get someone ain't paid no attention the whole thing... You are way too invested in this to not have some deep connection.You love to hate on Oak Ridge but are really tore up about this for some reason. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chs1984 Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 5 hours ago, HTV said: And why guys leave head coaching gigs elsewhere to take assistants jobs at one of those schools. They still end up with significant pay increases. Bingo. Me and a gentleman from Georgia had a spirited debate about this a year ago. He stated that he had rather be a HC at “Ten-Buck-Two” than a coordinator elsewhere. I disagreed, saying if the money was close I had soon be a coordinator. What people who haven’t been in the business don’t realize is as a HC you spend 20% of your time on football and 80% of your time on other junk. This is especially true at larger schools. You are responsible for every single detail, every single week. It gets old in a hurry. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetScience Posted January 18, 2023 Report Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 7 hours ago, STILLNUM1 said: You are way too invested in this to not have some deep connection.You love to hate on Oak Ridge but are really tore up about this for some reason. Edited January 18, 2023 by SweetScience Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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