TSSAA MID CYCLE ENROLLMENTS

[Southtowner]

20 minutes ago, Tide21 said:

So is adamsville getting moved up ? 

No. Adamsville went from an enrollment of 556 down to 550.

[Tide21]

4 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

No. Adamsville went from an enrollment of 556 down to 550.

The list was showing them in 3a maybe I read it wrong 

[Southtowner]

25 minutes ago, Tide21 said:

The list was showing them in 3a maybe I read it wrong 

That was Indian's post. He was giving a guesstimation on how it could look in 2 years.

[Tide21]

3 minutes ago, Southtowner said:

That was Indian's post. He was giving a guesstimation on how it could look in 2 years.

I see I read through the post real quick 

[tradertwo]

7 hours ago, cbg said:

You speak of revenue producing sports.  Truthfully the only revenue producing high school sports in Tennessee that I aware of would be football and basketball and at most schools that would be a stretch.  County schools appear to have much higher attendance numbers and community support than the inner city schools in the larger cities like Memphis and Nashville.  Football is very expensive due to the cost of equipment and the number of officials needed for games.  Basketball does not cost a great deal of money but unless the school has a reputation for winning the attendance figures typically drop off significantly after the first 5 or 6 games.  The two of us could probably count on both hands how many baseball, softball and wrestling teams break even.  I hate to say it but high school athletics are a financial drain on most school systems.  Now the lessons that student athletes learn by participating in athletics will be with them for the rest of their lives and there is no way to place a financial figure on those lessons learned.

You are evidently from the city then. In our system the teams are responsible for their own budgets... ticket sales, concessions, team fundraisers, and booster club assistance combine to fund every aspect of their existence, from travel expenses and officials, to uniforms, and everything in between, including field maintenance and materials...even sod. The respective head coaches are responsible for allocating or performing these tasks. The exception is a small "start up" allowance provided of less than $1,500. per sport (golf was $400., baseball and softball were 1,300.) per year. No matter the sport, if you arrive at game time you are in danger of standing to watch the event here other than basketball, and we have 1,600 seats (you may have to sit on the visitor side) in the gym. Our community supports it's school(s) very well, both because they care, and because they literally are the only game in town. Our baseball and softball teams annually participate in "roadtrip tournaments" viewed as working vacations, which are also self funded (softball played in Ohio and Florida last year, and added a 30' x 16' locker room extension for weights), and football routinely has upwards of 20,000 in their account. If it sounds as if I'm bragging, I am...the reality is though, that the other small rural schools in the area (that I have knowledge of) work the same way.

[rebelman101]

15 hours ago, Croppygenius said:

Rumor over here in Mustang land is that we are moving up to region 6 2a next season. This came from a school official that should know. How can we move up without a 20% increase in enrollment. Our numbers went from 330 to 367.

Yes this is rumored over here in Rebel country as well. I wouldn't be surprised if the stangs moved up.

[rebelman101]

3 hours ago, tradertwo said:

You are evidently from the city then. In our system the teams are responsible for their own budgets... ticket sales, concessions, team fundraisers, and booster club assistance combine to fund every aspect of their existence, from travel expenses and officials, to uniforms, and everything in between, including field maintenance and materials...even sod. The respective head coaches are responsible for allocating or performing these tasks. The exception is a small "start up" allowance provided of less than $1,500. per sport (golf was $400., baseball and softball were 1,300.) per year. No matter the sport, if you arrive at game time you are in danger of standing to watch the event here other than basketball, and we have 1,600 seats (you may have to sit on the visitor side) in the gym. Our community supports it's school(s) very well, both because they care, and because they literally are the only game in town. Our baseball and softball teams annually participate in "roadtrip tournaments" viewed as working vacations, which are also self funded (softball played in Ohio and Florida last year, and added a 30' x 16' locker room extension for weights), and football routinely has upwards of 20,000 in their account. If it sounds as if I'm bragging, I am...the reality is though, that the other small rural schools in the area (that I have knowledge of) work the same way.

You are absolutely correct. If you have a good fan base and support in the community, you wont hurt financially.  Our baseball and softball teams earn a percentage of concession stand sales. Our high school band runs our football concession stand. 1a and 2a sport teams are not a burden to a school system. Small towns support their schools. 

[Indian]

On 10/19/2018 at 2:23 PM, cbg said:

Just using the numbers that you have posted but when you have less that 55 schools in any division it is a total joke.  The schools in Tennessee along with the TSSAA should be ashamed of themselves for even calling someone  a state champion with so few schools in each division.  The numbers truly reflect that only 3 divisions are needed for football.

I would not have been so against the private schools in the middle and small classes had the MBAs and Ensworths remained in Class 5A and later, 6A. If they ever all came back for whatever reason, the largest 10 or 12 could go 6A and the rest could be divided equally 1A to 5A. No more multiplier.

[Tide21]

4 minutes ago, Indian said:

I would not have been so against the private schools in the middle and small classes had the MBAs and Ensworths remained in Class 5A and later, 6A. If they ever all came back for whatever reason, the largest 10 or 12 could go 6A and the rest could be divided equally 1A to 5A. No more multiplier.

Nah they belong in their own division. They have ways of acquiring players that public school  don’t 

[cbg]

11 hours ago, tradertwo said:

You are evidently from the city then. In our system the teams are responsible for their own budgets... ticket sales, concessions, team fundraisers, and booster club assistance combine to fund every aspect of their existence, from travel expenses and officials, to uniforms, and everything in between, including field maintenance and materials...even sod. The respective head coaches are responsible for allocating or performing these tasks. The exception is a small "start up" allowance provided of less than $1,500. per sport (golf was $400., baseball and softball were 1,300.) per year. No matter the sport, if you arrive at game time you are in danger of standing to watch the event here other than basketball, and we have 1,600 seats (you may have to sit on the visitor side) in the gym. Our community supports it's school(s) very well, both because they care, and because they literally are the only game in town. Our baseball and softball teams annually participate in "roadtrip tournaments" viewed as working vacations, which are also self funded (softball played in Ohio and Florida last year, and added a 30' x 16' locker room extension for weights), and football routinely has upwards of 20,000 in their account. If it sounds as if I'm bragging, I am...the reality is though, that the other small rural schools in the area (that I have knowledge of) work the same way.

You are correct!  I went to high school in a rural community but after college I have lived in nothing but major cities across the country.  Believe me when I say that the school system in most major cities are a total disaster and that is why many parents that can afford the tuition send their children to private schools.  There are more similarities between the rural school that I personally attended and many of the private schools than you would ever imagine.  When you allow the parents and community to be involved you tend to have a good school because everyone is pulling on the same end of the rope.

[GBO52]

On 10/19/2018 at 12:40 PM, croz6110 said:

Not for another 2 years.

So if TC numbers go back up in 2 years they could still be 2A or IF high enough 3A? or is the classification going to be off of these numbers? I'm confused

[Southtowner]

10 minutes ago, GBO52 said:

So if TC numbers go back up in 2 years they could still be 2A or IF high enough 3A? or is the classification going to be off of these numbers? I'm confused

The TSSAA will reclassify everyone in another 2 years based off the enrollment numbers turned in then.

Say if there are 300 schools in DI and they divide the classes evenly, there will be 50 schools per class.