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Here is my thing on diffrence of open oned public and none athletic schoolarship private schools. Typicaly an open zoned school is a school under capacity that will accept same county kids to releave pressure from a more crowed county schoool to one that is under capacity. A private school is unlimited in th area they can accept a student from. and yes thee are some like Freindship ht were getting kids from Wilson, Smith, Macon, and Sumner. Thatse were the unfair advantage is. I agree ona split betwen public and private. Simply transfer the multiplier to the open zoned schools, but only for the students coming form outside th core zone. And this will not hurt the public schools, it hasnt in Texas, were HS football is king.

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Ensworth and Maryville played a scrimmage game and Ensworth put a spanking on them. (There was a clock and officals though)Maryville will never schedule Ensworth. Maryville will never schedule a DII private school like Ensworth,  BA, MBA, MUS, CBHS, Baylor, or McCallie.  They did schedule Webb instead, and I bet Webb called them. Other 6A schools have scheduled the big private schools but Maryville never will.

 

The split is about the privates playing in DI. They don't want to have to compete with Webb. Webb would still dominate their division of DII-A if their was a split and that is who most of the privates playing public would have to play against. They don't want any part of Webb.

 

The other part of keeping a split from happening are the open zone schools. They think that if there is a split, then they might be a part of it in some way. Either a multiplier, or just go play with the privates. Big George and Gary won't let that happen. And none of the 6A or 5A schools have to compete against a private school for a championship. That went away with Catholic going down. Once Catholic went back down out of 5A then the split argument lost the 5A/6A support.

 

 The wild card right now is still Catholic. Remember when they switched from private to public. Did not win a championship in the private division, but it was not long until they were whipping all of the publics in E Tenn and then won a championship. That really smelled bad and I am sure that Fulton really had a lot of input on getting Catholic kicked back up with the big boys in 5A/6A. Well guess where Catholic is now? Fulton does not even have to loose to them to get the ball rolling to end the Catholic problem for ever. When Baby Falcons best running back is playing for Catholic, you know what is going to hit the fan. And Fulton and the rest of the publics are right. There should be a split. Then work on the open zone problem.

 

Plus coaches don't really care about rivalries that much. You just replace old rivalries with new ones.

 

Plus open zone does not automatically equate to football or sports success. Some open zone schools us it for academics or other programs to help students other than in football. But not Maryville or Alcoa. When CAK won a state championship and broke Alcoa's streak, they broke ground on a bigger school very quickly, And it's not to get more merit scholarship of band students in school. Plus Maryville has QB'S from  Halls and linemen from Farragut. And they both have played on Sunday in the Bible belt. If you really want to look at what has made Maryville better then just look at when Pellissippi Parkway was opened. Maryville was not as good as they are now in the 80,s and early 90,s. Just look at the pictures at the stadium. When the parkway was opened in the middle 90,s it was a new ball game for Knox county students(players) to get to Blount Co. They no longer had to think about trying to go down Alkillyea Hwy to get to Maryville. The students (players) going to Alcoa came from So knox after you got past Alcoa Hwy. They could not afford the $1000.00 to go to Maryville so they went cheap and saved $500 by going to Alcoa .Gambler, It really is simple to just use history and geography to se how it is done. I don't know about the other open zone schools in or around Knoxville, because apparently football is not king there like it is south or Fort Loudon Lake, or Lake Loudon like they call it on TV.

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Boyz NND nose hiz stuff....knott onlee Anglish.....Butt Histree and Jog-raffee.....OK he's beggin fer a bite.....

 

a. Mairvul and Alcoee tried two git Endswerth two come two tha Blunt Couwntee Bowl.....

 

2. Hits "Kang George" knott 'Big George'....

 

3. We nicelee envited Webb two come ovur two Mairvul agin this yeer, thay didun't won't momma brakin' down thair littull bleechurs....

 

4. We luv our rivulls....

 

5. We didun't haiv enny "QB's" frum Hauls...Onlee one mooved ovur two tha frendlee confines ov Mairvul fer tha garbige servuss....He didun't use Pelladega Speedway ethur....Hit wuz tha long way arownd

 

eff. Mairvul haz sum pitchurs befour tha Pelladega Speedway wuz thair....What's yore excuse.. eye meen reesun fer Mairvul winnin' inn 1964, 1970, 1976, 1978???

 

7. Alcoee raised thair sails tacks two beet CAK???....bean.gif

 

8. Hit costuss $2100 two go two Mairvul.....

 

eye. Mairvul and Alcoee academicks ere purtee good.....Eye meen look at me....tiphat.gif

 

10. On tha 'south ' side ov tha 'lake' we cawl hit "Fort Nasty"...fyi....icon_shit.gif

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No Name D, Thank you for responding to my post and making intelligent comments and points.  ITs amazing how geography and construction change things.  I think you brought in some interesting information and FACTS unlike many on this discussion.  One thing I would mention is Alcoa and Maryville are great because of their coaches and players work as well.  If one of those coaches went to William Blount or another Knoxville area school then that school too would rise in winning.

 

Also I find it interesting like everyone knows all people want what is perceived or what is best for them.  I think the Webb discussion is true and how the public schools that are not impacted don't hate private schools or want them out.  This is why the TSSAA must make the decision which is based for all parties.  Honestly Private schools playing in D1 are already making up for their bigger school zones by playing bigger schools.  Private schools that choose to play in the public are not doing so because they want to intentionally break the rules and dominate.  They are doing so because they dont want to be a financial aid d2 private school.  They are playing by the rules and would like to continue to do so.   Now I'm going to get on my soapbox for a minute and I would like to hear ND thoughts.  

 

People place private schools/open zone schools as the problem for getting athletes from other schools.  In today's society most people don't want to take personal responsibility on decisions.  THE PLAYERS AND THEIR PARENTS ARE STILL THE ONES CHOOSING TO GO TO THEIR UNZONED SCHOOL.  No open zone/private school is forcing anyone to go there.  Also I believe the school has to sign a release form of the student before they can transfer.  Why don't people talk about the families who are making that choice to move?  In the end its their choice and d1 private schools are not out scouting games for players.  ND what do you think.  

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This is not going ever happen it's a waste of time talking about it. TSSAA will not do it because there afraid all the private schools will leave the TSSAA. And if that happened it would not be good for public schools because the privates would get all the good talent out of the local public schools. And the public schools will be worse off.

 

I would love to see a spilt but I don't see it happening anytime soon

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