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1 hour ago, rtl112 said:

Was coach Ryan an assistant coach at Greenback before he got the head coaching job?

No,the coach that got fired was the line coach for a couple years.2015 was a WHOLE new staff.Ryan and Coach Kilpatrick where Co head coaches but Ryan ran the show.

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On 4/26/2020 at 12:22 PM, orngnblk said:

Not necessarily.If he is a quality coach with a very good staff and a good core of kids a team could end up with a great season.Coach Ryan came to GB in 2015 after the OTHER "New" Coach got fired for personal things he was doing outside of coaching before the season started.Ryan came in August put in a very complicated offense and a whole new defense and we made the title game.I understand what you are talking about and it is a good point but kids play this game their whole life now and pick up on things much better than years ago.Weight room and conditioning that in my opinion is more important than spring,although I love spring ball.I wish they would give them an extra EARLY week to have a real football camp like we used to have.No mommies or daddies just the team away for 5 to 7 days.

Sorry, but Whitwell is going to get creamed.  Even if they keep O its going to be a 50/50 battle at best.  It is hard to say how it is going to effect Lake County.  If whoever takes over there sticks with the system and can get the young men to buy in, they will be o.k.  However on veer teams for example, it will be hard to switch to a passing spread in a short time.

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1 hour ago, rlh said:

Sorry, but Whitwell is going to get creamed.  Even if they keep O its going to be a 50/50 battle at best.  It is hard to say how it is going to effect Lake County.  If whoever takes over there sticks with the system and can get the young men to buy in, they will be o.k.  However on veer teams for example, it will be hard to switch to a passing spread in a short time.

Yeah, that's a good point. Like I said, some will be okay some are going to have a tough time. But if you got a good staff and a good core kids you can find something that will work and be successful. The Whitwell comment. I'm sure you are spot on. I just don't see them making any strides anytime soon.

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School  (OUT)  IN  UPDATED  *INTERIM  **New School #Junior Varsity  ***Extree Stuff

 
Camden - (Wiliam Blow) - Matt McConnell
Carter - (Scott Meadows) - Justin Pressley
Cheatham - (Dwayne Daniel*) - Gary Halstead
Clinton - (Randy McKamey) - Darell Keith
Cloudland - (Scott Potter*) - Scott Potter
Cumberland County - (Eric Belew) - Noah Repasky
Dickson County - (Randy Murphree) - Greg Burns
Douglass - (Preston Harris) - Sheldon Dawson
East Nashville - (Brian Waite) - Jamaal Stewart
FACS - (Joey Lowe) - Chris Schuetz
Fairley - (Gene Robinson) - Fred Copeland
Fayette Academy - (Vic Shivers) - Michael Hodum
Fayette Ware - (Michael Hodum) -
Franklin County - (Mac McCurry) - Justin Cunningham
Germantown - (Tommy Ferrill) - Gene Robinson
Goodpasture - (Jerry Joshlin) - Tyler Turner
Green Hill** - (New School) - Josh Crouch
Harding Academy - (Johnny Allen) - Cody Nelson
Hickman County - (Michael Harrison) - R.E. McDonald
Hixson - (Gary Murray) - Josh Owensby
Knoxville Central - (Bryson Rosser) - Nick Craney
Lake County - (Josh Puckett) - Corey Quinn
Lakeway Christian Academy# - (Bruce Fowler) - Jermel Jones
Liberty - (Orentheus Taylor) - Scott Akin
Lincoln County - (Tim Johnson) - Kevin Rose
Loretto - (Neal Cruce) - Barry Daniel
Marion County - (Joey Mathis) - Dale Pruitt
Memphis Overton - (Edgar Williams) - Preston Harris
Milan - (Teddy Pettigrew) - Carl Differ
Munford - (Nick Markle) - Slade Calhoun
Pigeon Forge - (Adrian Watson) - Scott Meadows
Raleigh Egypt - (Larry Franklin) - Delvin Lane
Red Boiling Springs - (Matt Swoner) - Sean Link
Shelbyville - (Justin Palmer) (*Brody Quick) - Josh Puckett
Siegel - (Michael Copley) - Adam Renshaw
Silverdale Baptist Academy - (Al Rogers) - Mike Conner
Southwind - (Rahnmann Slocum) - Chris Jones
Station Camp - (Shaun Hollinsworth) - Brent Alexander
Stewarts Creek - (Bert Browne) - Ben Caudill
Sullivan East - (Mike Locke) - J.C. Simmons
Sycamore - (Justin Robison) -
Tipton Rosemark - (Collin Pinner) - Shannon O'Brien
Union City - (Darren Bowling) - Nick Markle
Volunteer - (Justin Pressley) - Jesse McMillan
The Webb School - (Jeff Murphy) - 
Westview - (Matt McConnell) - Jarod Neal
Westwood - (Fred Copeland) - Orentheus Taylor
Whites Creek - (Clifton Davis) -
Whitwell- (Travis Olinger) -
York Institute - (Derwin Wright) - Kerry Johnson
 
*** RePublic no football in 2020. Green Hill will pick up their schedule.
*** St Andrews Sewanee will co-op with Grundy Co in football.
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School  (OUT)  IN  UPDATED  *INTERIM  **New School #Junior Varsity  ***Extree Stuff

 
Camden - (Wiliam Blow) - Matt McConnell
Carter - (Scott Meadows) - Justin Pressley
Cheatham - (Dwayne Daniel*) - Gary Halstead
Clinton - (Randy McKamey) - Darell Keith
Cloudland - (Scott Potter*) - Scott Potter
Cumberland County - (Eric Belew) - Noah Repasky
Dickson County - (Randy Murphree) - Greg Burns
Douglass - (Preston Harris) - Sheldon Dawson
East Nashville - (Brian Waite) - Jamaal Stewart
FACS - (Joey Lowe) - Chris Schuetz
Fairley - (Gene Robinson) - Fred Copeland
Fayette Academy - (Vic Shivers) - Michael Hodum
Fayette Ware - (Michael Hodum) -
Franklin County - (Mac McCurry) - Justin Cunningham
Germantown - (Tommy Ferrill) - Gene Robinson
Goodpasture - (Jerry Joshlin) - Tyler Turner
Green Hill** - (New School) - Josh Crouch
Harding Academy - (Johnny Allen) - Cody Nelson
Hickman County - (Michael Harrison) - R.E. McDonald
Hixson - (Gary Murray) - Josh Owensby
Knoxville Central - (Bryson Rosser) - Nick Craney
Lake County - (Josh Puckett) - Corey Quinn
Lakeway Christian Academy# - (Bruce Fowler) - Jermel Jones
Liberty - (Orentheus Taylor) - Scott Akin
Lincoln County - (Tim Johnson) - Kevin Rose
Loretto - (Neal Cruce) - Barry Daniel
Marion County - (Joey Mathis) - Dale Pruitt
Memphis Overton - (Edgar Williams) - Preston Harris
Milan - (Teddy Pettigrew) - Carl Differ
Munford - (Nick Markle) - Slade Calhoun
Pigeon Forge - (Adrian Watson) - Scott Meadows
Raleigh Egypt - (Larry Franklin) - Delvin Lane
Red Boiling Springs - (Matt Swoner) - Sean Link
Shelbyville - (Justin Palmer) (*Brody Quick) - Josh Puckett
Siegel - (Michael Copley) - Adam Renshaw
Silverdale Baptist Academy - (Al Rogers) - Mike Conner
South Greene -(Scotty Verran) - Shawn Jones
Southwind - (Rahnmann Slocum) - Chris Jones
Station Camp - (Shaun Hollinsworth) - Brent Alexander
Stewarts Creek - (Bert Browne) - Ben Caudill
Sullivan East - (Mike Locke) - J.C. Simmons
Sycamore - (Justin Robison) -
Tipton Rosemark - (Collin Pinner) - Shannon O'Brien
Union City - (Darren Bowling) - Nick Markle
Volunteer - (Justin Pressley) - Jesse McMillan
The Webb School - (Jeff Murphy) - 
West Greene - (Joe Case) -
Westview - (Matt McConnell) - Jarod Neal
Westwood - (Fred Copeland) - Orentheus Taylor
Whites Creek - (Clifton Davis) -
Whitwell- (Travis Olinger) -
York Institute - (Derwin Wright) - Kerry Johnson
 
*** RePublic no football in 2020. Green Hill will pick up their schedule.
*** St Andrews Sewanee will co-op with Grundy Co in football.
 
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Since this falls under the heading of "the other", I'll throw some food for thought out there. This is the year of reclassification, and also TSSAA has it on their collective mind to adjust (probably) to five classes... I'd love to read what some of you are thinking about CV-19's possible influence. Assuming that school reconvenes on schedule, and the enrollment numbers are sent to TSSAA on the traditional date, I can foresee more than insignificant numbers of kids being held out or homeschooled, dependent upon location and demographics.

   Thoughts???

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4 minutes ago, tradertwo said:

Since this falls under the heading of "the other", I'll throw some food for thought out there. This is the year of reclassification, and also TSSAA has it on their collective mind to adjust (probably) to five classes... I'd love to read what some of you are thinking about CV-19's possible influence. Assuming that school reconvenes on schedule, and the enrollment numbers are sent to TSSAA on the traditional date, I can foresee more than insignificant numbers of kids being held out or homeschooled, dependent upon location and demographics.

   Thoughts???

Interesting. I am not sure how all of that would shake out with homeschooling, but home schooled kids can still participate in athletics inside their school district. To your point, those kids won't be counted in numbers and you could realistically, for instance, have a strong 2A school competing in 1A with the same number of players as usual. I don't think a school would drop more than a class, but it may be worth the TSSAA planning on this cycle to only do a two year instead of 4 year. 

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School  (OUT)  IN  UPDATED  *INTERIM  **New School #Junior Varsity  ***Extree Stuff

 
Camden - (Wiliam Blow) - Matt McConnell
Carter - (Scott Meadows) - Justin Pressley
Cheatham - (Dwayne Daniel*) - Gary Halstead
Clinton - (Randy McKamey) - Darell Keith
Cloudland - (Scott Potter*) - Scott Potter
Cumberland County - (Eric Belew) - Noah Repasky
Dickson County - (Randy Murphree) - Greg Burns
Douglass - (Preston Harris) - Sheldon Dawson
East Nashville - (Brian Waite) - Jamaal Stewart
FACS - (Joey Lowe) - Chris Schuetz
Fairley - (Gene Robinson) - Fred Copeland
Fayette Academy - (Vic Shivers) - Michael Hodum
Fayette Ware - (Michael Hodum) -
Franklin County - (Mac McCurry) - Justin Cunningham
Germantown - (Tommy Ferrill) - Gene Robinson
Goodpasture - (Jerry Joshlin) - Tyler Turner
Green Hill** - (New School) - Josh Crouch
Harding Academy - (Johnny Allen) - Cody Nelson
Hickman County - (Michael Harrison) - R.E. McDonald
Hixson - (Gary Murray) - Josh Owensby
Knoxville Central - (Bryson Rosser) - Nick Craney
Lake County - (Josh Puckett) - Corey Quinn
Lakeway Christian Academy# - (Bruce Fowler) - Jermel Jones
LaVergne - (Staton Stevens) - Mike Woodward
Liberty - (Orentheus Taylor) - Scott Akin
Lincoln County - (Tim Johnson) - Kevin Rose
Loretto - (Neal Cruce) - Barry Daniel
Marion County - (Joey Mathis) - Dale Pruitt
Memphis Overton - (Edgar Williams) - Preston Harris
Milan - (Teddy Pettigrew) - Carl Differ
Munford - (Nick Markle) - Slade Calhoun
Pigeon Forge - (Adrian Watson) - Scott Meadows
Raleigh Egypt - (Larry Franklin) - Delvin Lane
Red Boiling Springs - (Matt Swoner) - Sean Link
Shelbyville - (Justin Palmer) (*Brody Quick) - Josh Puckett
Siegel - (Michael Copley) - Adam Renshaw
Silverdale Baptist Academy - (Al Rogers) - Mike Conner
South Greene -(Scotty Verran) - Shawn Jones
Southwind - (Rahnmann Slocum) - Chris Jones
Station Camp - (Shaun Hollinsworth) - Brent Alexander
Stewarts Creek - (Bert Browne) - Ben Caudill
Sullivan East - (Mike Locke) - J.C. Simmons
Sycamore - (Justin Robison) -
Tipton Rosemark - (Collin Pinner) - Shannon O'Brien
Union City - (Darren Bowling) - Nick Markle
Volunteer - (Justin Pressley) - Jesse McMillan
The Webb School - (Jeff Murphy) - 
West Greene - (Joe Case) -
Westview - (Matt McConnell) - Jarod Neal
Westwood - (Fred Copeland) - Orentheus Taylor
Whites Creek - (Clifton Davis) -
Whitwell- (Travis Olinger) -
York Institute - (Derwin Wright) - Kerry Johnson
 
*** RePublic no football in 2020. Green Hill will pick up their schedule.
*** St Andrews Sewanee will co-op with Grundy Co in football.
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22 hours ago, tradertwo said:

Since this falls under the heading of "the other", I'll throw some food for thought out there. This is the year of reclassification, and also TSSAA has it on their collective mind to adjust (probably) to five classes... I'd love to read what some of you are thinking about CV-19's possible influence. Assuming that school reconvenes on schedule, and the enrollment numbers are sent to TSSAA on the traditional date, I can foresee more than insignificant numbers of kids being held out or homeschooled, dependent upon location and demographics.

   Thoughts???

I'm anxious to see what the Association comes up with.  I think it's as good a time as any to have just a 2 year cycle instead of 4.

Good point on the enrollment numbers due to more students being home schooled.  I hadn't thought of that.  

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19 hours ago, Southtowner said:

I'm anxious to see what the Association comes up with.  I think it's as good a time as any to have just a 2 year cycle instead of 4.

Good point on the enrollment numbers due to more students being home schooled.  I hadn't thought of that.  

Just a thought. But if the numbers are possibly going to be greatly skewed why not just wait one more year to reclassify? Get enrollment number in the fall of 2021.  Have teams play one more year with current teams on schedule. 

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15 hours ago, BIGPURPLEMACHINE said:

Just a thought. But if the numbers are possibly going to be greatly skewed why not just wait one more year to reclassify? Get enrollment number in the fall of 2021.  Have teams play one more year with current teams on schedule. 

Or go ahead as planned, with a caveat... reduce the percentage of growth/loss per each school to move a class. Currently, if any particular school loses 20% of populous from the reclassification year number, they are allowed to move down. Set it at 10% gain/loss and shift after one year... that would allow for the unknown effect of the virus on enrollment numbers in various demographics. 

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1 minute ago, tradertwo said:

Or go ahead as planned, with a caveat... reduce the percentage of growth/loss per each school to move a class. Currently, if any particular school loses 20% of populous from the reclassification year number, they are allowed to move down. Set it at 10% gain/loss and shift after one year... that would allow for the unknown effect of the virus on enrollment numbers in various demographics. 

Not a bad idea my friend. 

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