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As hard as it was to witness everything that happened after the game Friday night, I take comfort in knowing that Upperman’s biggest fan went from witnessing the greatest win in school history to witnessing the face of his savior. There is never a good time to lose someone we love but for Mr butler, what a wonderful thing to witness as the last image he ever saw. From one of his greatest nights to his greatest eternal reward. I could care less about all this other junk you all are taking about. In the game of life, none of it matters. Go win the gold ball for him Bees!

Death runs in all of our families. None of us are getting out of here alive. There’s only one way to heaven and it’s through our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Last Friday night we talked before and after the game. This Friday he’s gone. Definitely puts life in perspective and what’s truly important.

I have tried to explain this exactly like this on here. Take a hard working, motivated kid from a small school that has some athleticism. Maybe he has ok coaching, limited workout options/facilities and few if any good partners to work with in the room. But he works hard and is dedicated. Take the same kid. Give him better coaching. Better facilities and a workout regimen. Give him several really good hammers to work with every practice for 2 or 3 years. Who wins? (Rhetorical) Point being, in aggregate all these things matter. Money, facilities, coaching, partners, school commitment etc. To me personally, what Halls did last year was much more impressive than anything Cleveland did. With respect, Halls developed their kids in house from scratch in a more austere environment. Cleveland is a great program, they have everything working for them and they should be on top. Their coaching, facilities, funding and support are as good as any in the state. They have no weak spots. When another team does more with less is what impresses me. Just my $.02

What the heck Southtowner? You let this red rebel feller beat you to creating a website for our game! In all seriousness though, I can't think of McKenzie and South Pittsburg without thinking of Lee Russell and Matt Blansett. May they rest in peace.

Now you’re changing the argument. We weren’t talking about administrators being head coaches. Administrators have professional teaching licenses that allow them to be head coaches. There is no written policy about admin not being allowed to coach, that’s an unspoken concept in central office. The argument that was originally stated was that board policy doesn’t allow for the hiring of non faculty coaches when a licensed person has interviews and is qualified. I imagine Brad Taylor could have a bone to pick about the Bearden opening in Dec 2021 due to failure to follow board policy.

So let’s think about this, this job just opened TWO days ago heck maybe not even. Hard to believe there are “front runners” yet considering it just opened up and No interviews have been conducted. Secondly, any idiot who thinks this isn’t a “wanted” job either doesn’t know much about HS football in Knoxville or is just in denial. Wether it’s in a downturn rn or not, Central is and will always be a premier job in Knox County public schools in Football. Let the debate carry on…

As do we. And we're playing for a State title Friday.

And Tennessee titles, whether individual or team, aren't as valuable as PA, NJ, OH, or Iowa team titles. Whatever. There is a relative degree of difficulty and that is all that matters. I'm not sure that some can grasp the theory of relativity even when applied outside of physics. Small schools have less kids to pull athletes from. In some cases, way way less kids. The degree of difficulty in winning a title is relative and is for all practical purposes the same even if the talent pools are vastly different. Is the big school champ going to beat the small school champ in a dual? The answer is yes 95% of the time, but that is irrelevant. The degree of difficulty being relative is all that matters. Cleveland has roughly 1700 students. Greeneville has roughly 800 students. DB and SH have what, 2500 hundred students roughly? Pair all the small schools together, as we do, and their route to a title is just as difficult precisely because each small school in that final eight has roughly the same ratio of talent to average as all their peers. I don't agree at all that a big school title is more "valuable". If it is then a Tennessee title in big school is really invaluable when compared to the very best a state like PA has to offer. But again, relativity comes into play.

Groves. He has won me over. Teams know he's getting it. And York was trying to end his season. He still averages 4 to 7 a carry then breaks several a game. If you don't admire that I'm not sure why you watch football. https://www.coacht.com/boards/index.php?/topic/271412-er-vs-york-trip-to-chattanooga-on-the-line/&do=findComment&comment=4389470

Lol a coach pushed a kid from York to get him away from the scuffle when it was goin on. A scuffle that began because a York player gator rolled Isaiah Groves’s leg after the play was over. No kid was punched by a coach. Y’all gotta be some of the sorest losers I’ve ever seen. Y’all have gotten away with playing dirty all year and bullying the weaker teams in your region, and thought the same would happen last night. This time you ran into a team that was better than you and wasn’t about to let you get away with your tantrums. Go cheer on the basketball team. Have a coke and a smile

You mean hit out of bounds

They were disciplined until York wanted to turn it into a UFC fight.

He’d loose that too. Brooks a big man.

They got plenty to show 12 kids have signed scholarships to play college football for free the last two years! Thats great for a inner city school. Put that in your pipe and smoke it sir! Going to school for free is the goal for the kids by using football as a means to accomplish that goal.

MTSU isnt hiring Kevin Creasy. Lost yal’s minds!

Karma says your over played your hand. It’s easy to do when you are not use to success. You lacked any humbleness and all lack of respect for your competition and got run ruled to the house before the finals. Your name alone shows you jumped on as a one trick pony. Alcoa, Oakland, Maryville, Page, Henry County have all made decent and consistent runs toward a championship over the last 4 years - you’ve made it past the second round once in that timeframe. The good news for you, you get to spend the next decade telling the world about that one time you had a shot to be a Champion. Sit down now and watch programs you wish to be play this weekend.

Nobody is doubting the work ethic of the kids. Nor are they doubting he work it took to get where they are, The issue has, and will apparently always be, the Cleveland coaching staff (and fans on this board) refuse to acknowledge the money and above average facilities exist. They refuse to admit they have resources, and access to resources, that almost no other programs do. They say they got where they are SOLELY because they outwork everybody. THAT is the issue.

This was long overdue. The program has had no leadership the last 3 years and they barely had 40 kids on the sideline. A new voice was needed.

Prayers for that young man Jayden. Tragedy has a way of bringing all of us together to unite for a cause greater than winning a game.

Kind of felt like PC had a chance at a State Championship all season. They've played great football this season. Good Luck to both Upperman and Pearl Cohn!

UHS went to the 2a semis in 1996....so days struggling to get 1a wins are 25+ years ago . At one time, Spring Hill was a small rual school. Now look at that area. Progress happens. It's not like UHS went from 350 students to 890 in 2 years. It was over a thirty year span. They won 2 baseball championships in the 90s, played in several 80s. But until the mid 90s, seemed only basketball and baseball was a priority. Some lean years jumping g from 1a to 2a, and from 2a to 3a. Since 2013, football has been a focal point of the community snd school.

If someone repeats the bad decision, it’s not a mistake. A couple of York players were trying to take #1 out all night. Watch the film, they were diving at his knees head first when he was held up!! I do agree they are kids and obviously don’t know, because their Coach or Parent did not teach them how to properly tackle or play the game. One would think that York could handle losing after researching the programs history.

No you’re not suppose to know who I am but I would expect someone who does sports commentary for a living to actually read through the entire thread before quoting something but not surprised since you didn’t do your homework on the Greeneville vs Alcoa score when you said “Alcoa was beating Greeneville at half and that’s why the didn’t want to continue”. Hard to shake someone’s hand when I wasn’t there and watched it online since I don’t live in Greeneville anymore. I would have if I was there but not when you come on here and just acted the way you did. Misspoke and not doing research are two different things, either you knew good and well the score when it was called for weather or you were to lazy to actually gather the stats. You’re not going to change my opinion about you all being annoying homers and it’s not just me that thinks that, you said it about yourself

On the bright side I'm sure this game sends @hogheaven, his wife, and his wife's boyfriend into the shadows for another couple of years.

So so sorry for uppermans loss, this is a tragedy but also a win for this man. Nothing like being in the presence of our lord!! My thoughts & prayers for this man’s family in the days ahead & this program!

For a man that that HATES York you sure like to talk about them a lot. You posted on another thread how York is your most hated team. You think you’re classy when you say you hate a group of 15-18 yr old young men and a group of coaches that spend countless hours away from their family to teach a game they all love. Are there teams that pull for that aren’t York when York isn’t playing them yes sir their is there teams I root against yes sir their is. But for you to call out a fan base, coaches, and players and call them classless then say I hate that team is ridiculous. I have respected your post on this forum for a few years now until a couple weeks ago. I’m sure you will lose no sleep over it but you sir should look in the mirror before calling anyone classless.

If they try that mess with this group that Riverside is bring to town, ER will leave with their tails whipped more than one way.

Having fans on the same sideline is the worst thing I’ve ever seen.

Alcoa The best football program in Tennessee history.

Seen East play for years. Never seen them be “dirty”. Swagger ain’t dirty. York is always mouthy and a little dirty.

It’s 38-17 and Oakland had 3 TDS called back… that’s a thrashing

These dudes on the radio are comical

Biggums, I like keeping em medicated.

It makes a lot of sense actually, give the teams 1 or 2 games of your choosing and don't just give them free film by having games available on NFHS.

Good write up on JT. https://www.tennessean.com/story/sports/high-school/2023/11/30/tssaa-football-championships-upperman-fan-died-bluecross-bowl/71700721007/

Booger observed Decaturville went toe to toe with a very very good Tyner squad last year in the 2A Gold Ball contest losin by 4 or 3 pts......CrossPlains got routed by Tyner a couple weeks prior to that contest...Booger nose this is this year and not last year......But Booger thinkin that Panther team didnt lose a lotta Sr's.....not sure.....if so tho, this Decaturville squad is salty experienced and bein at Finley a year before is a plus... .....seems like Cross Plains gotta a Groves brother playin bout 7 outta 11 position on each side of the ball....the Indians gonna need to find 4 more Groves to ride that bus to Finley if the Indians want to hold that Gold Ball..... .....every year theres only bout 4 competitive close Gold Ball Contest. to be witnessed.....thinkin this one has a chance to be one of those only 5 or 4 this year..... ......Experience and physicality carries moment.....Decatur County Riverside by 1 extra trip across the goal line over East Robertson....maybe 2 thats a Booger Pickin

second play. First was off sides. Lol

Incorrect. Ref threw the flag because groves was going out of bounds with 2 dragons on him then 48 came in and tried to clean it up after he went out of bounds. Groves was on the ground with and 48 got up and kicked groves in the head then pushed an assistant coach then hit another while the coaches were trying to get it situated. #48 and #70 are caught on film hitting ER coaches.

3 straight trips to the Ship is all I need to know. Good team , good coach. A great combination to have.

Great luck to Alcoa is Chatt! You guys have a heck of a program, and great football environment on Friday nights!

SP 38, McKenzie 16 Riverside 28, Emergency Room 21

Anyone who wins consistently at Kentucky is a big time hire for a real football school.

I still stand by that statement. With the game being televised and not as many games going on this time of year, lots of eyes and ears were tuned in. Everyone saw and heard what happened. So, that info got out in real time. Honestly, we were the favorites on this side of the bracket and here we are. As for the West, I think most folks that keep up with high school football and have a good understanding of other schools besides their own, knew and knows the West was stacked. The West was a gauntlet and McKenzie has proven once again, 3 times in a row, they are formidable and are the team to beat, as the West has been all along this year.

Wish somebody told my high school coaches that lol

Connor Stalions and Jim Harbaugh??? I hear that they've got some free time on their hands, so maybe Greeneville offered them a hotdog & popcorn to do a little "scouting"?

One of, if not, the biggest Bee fan. Prays to his family

One day we are going to meet up and I’m buying.

With the rules implemented this year, that would result in officials having them removed by police.

You have to give it to Bradley fans. They talk trash even after getting dominated. Bradley won’t make it back here for a long time

Will be cheering hard for the Patriots!